[OpenID] supporting the open community

[Peter Williams]

None of that was necessary for the SSL adoption. There was a killer need (online banking and creditcards), and a dominat interworking partner (netscape browser). The rest was right tech, right timing, right "posture".

At Rapattoni, we are struggling to get any takers for OpenID: SAML2 is going great guns. I can update you on that. Full power assurance arguments (and proofs) made no difference, to the receptivity of the pitch about openid.

We are however, deploying an SAML+OAUTH equivalent (for a given customer). The need is obvious (in our little, irrelevant industry).

If OpenID + OAUTH were there, with php libraries, we'd have a community winner , as we have a few ten thousands of folks pulling realty listing data, over the listing web apis. I would not have to do with SAML, if there was an openid option. If there was a standard now, I'd have trustbearer folks just turn back on the openid2-saml gateway they built for us, and move forward...

If the strategy for moving OAUTH tokens around was essentially common to SAML sp-init websso and openid solicited auth, there would be an even bigger win (and some smaller egos).


-----Original Message-----
From: SitG Admin [mailto:sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:45 PM
To: Peter Williams
Cc: general at openid.net
Subject: [OpenID] Re: supporting the open community

>you would normally be expecting Gartner and Burton Group to have
>been bought and paid for in making opinions against openid, by the
>likes of folks with the kinds of money of involved in running the
>Liberty Alliance. But note: even these analysts sit on the fence.
>That's the brand power of Yahoo (OP) and Google (SP) for you!

Supporting the community through their public involvement. What kind
of support is there from sites that promise OpenID is coming, and
then don't follow through on it? I can see a short-term effect,
fading over time as the site does nothing about it. So, support is
most consistent if announced when release is imminent?

Or could this lapse in faith be prevented if the company openly
participated in the community, accepting assistance with their
development and issuing regular reports on their progress to assure
everyone that they were moving closer to their goal?

-Shade