[OpenID] Musing on FaceBook, OpenID and the next mountain to climb

[David Recordon]

I don't disagree with you, but do think that long term it will matter  
as the value offerred by Facebook APIs (in comparison to other social  
networks) is no where near the value offerred by Amazon (in comparison  
to ...<who?>).

Also agreed that having OpenID and OAuth use the same signature  
mechanism would be a good thing along with the combined OpenID/OAuth  
extension and libraries which start to support both.

--David

On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:

> A standard signature mechanism for name/value pairs would be useful.  
> Last time I looked, OAuth and OpenID were different as well. So much  
> for reuse of work in the Open Web. Standardizing this and having it  
> in libraries would help developers.
>
> Do you have any other examples of improved user experience or  
> developer experience?
>
> While I agree with you that open web technologies are "a good thing"  
> -- lots of people are happy to write to amazon, google, yahoo etc.  
> APIs to use their service. Not sure why Facebook Connect would be  
> any different.  The functionality they wanted to expose is currently  
> not in the OpenID specifications -- and I think the user experience  
> is superior with Facebook Connect than OpenID.
>
> -- Dick
>
> On 16-Sep-08, at 2:24 PM, David Recordon wrote:
>
>> Considering that we're currently having to verify a signature by
>> concatenating half a dozen cookie names, it would make the login
>> process easier and use existing OpenID RP code that Movable Type
>> already has.  The value I see is in making "RP" developer's lives
>> easier if they're already working with OpenID and/or OAuth.  This
>> isn't to say that people won't integrate Facebook Connect, as it is
>> really valuable, but over the next year as other social networks add
>> similar functionality based on open web technologies Facebook will
>> start to be left behind.  (Like with what is starting to happen with
>> OpenSocial)
>>
>> --David
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 16-Sep-08, at 12:43 PM, David Recordon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I actually disagree.  I think Facebook Connect could be implemented
>>>> atop OpenID and OAuth.  The first interaction is login where OpenID
>>>> can be used to assert the user's profile URL.
>>>
>>> Of course it COULD be implemented with OpenID, but what would it
>>> gain Facebook and the user?
>>>
>>> I don't see the improved user experience or developer experience.
>>>
>>> -- Dick
>>
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