[OpenID] Google OpenID IDP is now live

[Dick Hardt]

OMG!

Embrace and extend raises its ugly head again.

If you want to change what an RP does from the spec, it should be  
standardized.

I hope I'm misunderstanding what you are saying and that you support  
the standard. Google specific suggestions on improving the UX are  
tolerable -- but not following the spec is not.

-- Dick

On 29-Oct-08, at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:

> Our API documentation explains what we recommend RPs to implement to
> facilitate users attempts to login using Google. (Effectively you can
> hook up your button or user a parser for email addresses and perform
> discovery at the endpoint above for gmail). Due to the patchy library
> support of EAUT at present, we think this is an adequate interim
> solution, and the modifications that we suggest RPs to perform are
> independent of the actual discovery mechanism supported.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> "www.google.com/accounts/o8/id"?
>>
>> gosh, I'll remember that one! :-)
>>
>> Given the non memorable openid generated by Google, I'd be  
>> interested in how
>> Google thinks users will login with their OpenID if they can't type  
>> in
>> gmail.com or google.com -- these should work. Will they?
>>
>> -- Dick
>>
>> On 29-Oct-08, at 10:38 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>>
>>> At this point, you can discover using www.google.com/accounts/o8/ 
>>> id as
>>> your OP identifier if you so wish. However, initially we will  
>>> require
>>> registration. Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott at gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Forgive my apparent ignorance, but this doesn't look like a  
>>>> standard
>>>> OpenID
>>>> Provider.  I just tried to log into my own RP typing in  
>>>> "google.com" to
>>>> use
>>>> directed identity, since I have no idea what my own identifier  
>>>> URL would
>>>> be,
>>>> and no endpoints were found.  Also tried "gmail.com".
>>>> When I read the blog, it mentioned OpenID but the link was to  
>>>> register
>>>> for
>>>> federated login.  I thought Shibboleth was about federated login  
>>>> and
>>>> OpenID
>>>> was about letting any RP log into an IDP.  Why does an RP have to
>>>> register
>>>> with Google before using its IDP?  And even if it registered,  
>>>> that can't
>>>> automatically make "google.com" discoverable, so this doesn't  
>>>> feel like
>>>> OpenID at all to me.
>>>>
>>>> Unhappy, but hoping someone can explain it to me.
>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Eric Sachs <esachs at google.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Google's IDP is now live.  You can try it on Plaxo, ZoHo, &  
>>>>> Buxfer and
>>>>> hopefully more RPs to come soon.  Here is the blog post with more
>>>>> details,
>>>>> including information on how RPs can sign up to use the service:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/10/google-moves-towards-single-sign-on.html
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, it does allow RPs to request a user's E-mail address  
>>>>> via AX as
>>>>> an
>>>>> option.  I'll let Joseph Smarr from Plaxo respond with details  
>>>>> on how
>>>>> they
>>>>> are using that feature to further simplify the signup flow for  
>>>>> Plaxo.
>>>>> Eric Sachs
>>>>> Product Manager, Google Security
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>>>>>
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>
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