[OpenID] Phishing resistant policy of PAPE

Peter Williams pwilliams at rapattoni.com
Wed Oct 29 02:25:26 UTC 2008


phishing-resistant is nothing more than a category of pape-typed assertion one can make. Nothing more. If it's not true, the OP should not assert it.

If a credible party (google OP?) wants to assert that its OP behavior is phishing resistant (whatever google defines that to mean, and however it accomplishes it) so be it.

As I recall, the TrustBearer folk claim phishing resistance in their OP, since it's going to be tough for the RP (under the PAPE defn of phishing-resistant) to spoof the OP subscriber who, whilst talking to the OP, was using the required smartcard-based user-authentication handshake.

Now I built the Trustbearer myself, from firmware up. My smartcard (IBM) chip, my javacard firmware, my/TrustBearer's musclecard firmware/applet, and my RSA keygen - and then TrustBearer's auth handshake (leveraging an (signed) activeX remoting class)

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So why use the misleading label "phishing-resistant"?  It offers
no resistance to the phishing attack above.  It would be more
accurate to call it "Ben Laurie attack resistance".

Eric Norman

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