[OpenID] TR: ICANN - dotOpenID Has Found Its First Sponsor

Ben Laurie benl at google.com
Fri Oct 24 15:07:48 UTC 2008


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com> wrote:
> Why would google object? Its core market expansion for adword bidding.

Google does not object - AFAIK, Google has no opinion - that is my
personal blog.

> The same "evil" is true for VeriSign too. More domains, more certs (which are per domain-name).
>
> Same is true for Internet founder/research groups - which gets cut of the whole business (a tax that essentially give the US R&D community a long term $$ payoff for making the internet open)
>
> Given the discussion of vanity identifiers (that OpenID delegation leverages and promotes), I'm a bit surprised that there is not MORE VC money and interest in openid services companies yet (like we did at VeriSign with the founding $5.5M, once certs had clearly moved from the tech wars to management services).
>
> Be interesting to know who is pushing Snorri, and giving the 50k. I have some private guesses, given the DNS TLD + OpenID hookup. Still 50k is an irrelevant market move. Even 150k is but a medium size, short term  consultancy engagement, for the likes of a PWC, say. But, it's enough to be buying someone like a PWC's analysis reputation- if they make as a +ve recommendation based on a thorough investigation of the issues.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On Behalf Of Snorri
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:00 AM
> To: 'Ben Laurie'
> Cc: general at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] TR: ICANN - dotOpenID Has Found Its First Sponsor
>
> Dear Ben Laurie,
>
> Your link/point of view is probably in the truth,
> But many companies and organizations will do it! (.ebay?, .sport...)
>
> I will also defend candidacies for different French cities/regions (.Paris,
> .CSC, .BZH,...)
> It's seems very important for these communities... and "local identities"
> I specify that I'm not initiator of the "dotOpenID Project"!
> (but a private sponsor asked me to manage this project)
>
> Thank you for this understanding!
>
> Regards
>
> -Snorri
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Ben Laurie [mailto:benl at google.com]
> Envoyé : vendredi 24 octobre 2008 15:23
> À : Snorri
> Cc : general at openid.net
> Objet : Re: [OpenID] TR: ICANN - dotOpenID Has Found Its First Sponsor
>
> http://www.links.org/?p=386
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Snorri <snorri at snorri.eu> wrote:
>> Today, October 24, 2008, ICANN come to update "New gTLD Applicant
> Guidebook"
>> (75 pages)
>>
>> http://icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-comments-en.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> The total budget required is $185 000
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be in Cairo (Egypt) in November for the 33th ICANN Meeting, in
>> particular to study the interests and possibilities of the dotOpenID
>> project.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are interested, thanks to contact me...
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> -Snorri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> The project was confidential until now, but today we have just received
>> confirmation of a first sponsorship ($50,000.00). The sponsor has agreed
> to
>> participate in the project (as soon as they will have received the
>> operational file), and it is a good time to announce its existence to the
>> whole Community.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had already had the pleasure to announce this project and to discuss it
>> briefly with ICANN managers during the 32nd International Public ICANN
>> Meeting, held last June in Paris. The first feedback I received was very
>> enthusiastic. People are excited at the thought of launching a new gTLD:
>> dotOpenID, ".OpenID."
>>
>>
>>
>> Please understand, this goes way beyond OpenID. It is the introduction of
> a
>> new gTLD dedicated to identity, a concept which has everyone concerned. It
>> has been talked about for several years... To this day, it is still
> uncertain
>> under which form it can materialize, be it .openid or .myID, xxxx... to this
>> day, things are still in flux.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, the possibility of using "OpenID" as a new extension of a
> domain
>> name opens wonderful prospects and very exciting; the new specifications
>> (onwards to OpenID3.0?) could for example include that....... and the unique
>> opportunity for cobranding - which would focus a lot of attention on
> OpenID
>> - it would be visible right there with the DNS/Domain names, since OpenID
>> would be an URL.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, in part this project becomes possible because of the new ICANN
>> program http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm aimed at
>> simplifying all formalities necessary to become candidate, which are
>> objectively examined and accepted as long as they meet all the necessary
>> conditions.
>>
>> This being said, a lot of questions still remain unanswered, for example
> the
>> legal-technical angle, the Business Plan or the type of entity which will
>> manage this new extension.
>>
>>
>>
>> I tend to be in favor of a Non-Profit supporting this project, rather than
> a
>> business entity. This would in my view guarantee a more neutral position,
> in
>> particular in the absence of the rules I was alluding to earlier. This
>> Non-Profit, can be OIDF or another Foundation, especially created for this
>> project. The revenue generated could become an important source of income
>> for the development of OpenID, of the Open Web, and of digital ID...
>>
>>
>>
>> The next phase (covering the next three months) is to gather a few
> thinking
>> heads (yours? :) ) and to think through all the possibilities...
>>
>>
>>
>> If all possible obstacles can be lifted, the process could start as soon
> as
>> January 2009.
>>
>>
>>
>> After that, we would have to wait between 8 and 14/18 months to the see
> the
>> first:
>>
>>
>>
>> - [YourCompanyName].OpenID - To isolate the SSO from each RP (e.g.:
>> Plaxo.OpenID)
>>
>> - [YourName].OpenID - To be able to have your own URL, managed by your
>> favorite OP, while remaining free to change it (e.g.: Snorri.OpenID)
>>
>> - [YourProvider].OpenID - This would create a simple and strong URL, with
>> the OP you trust (e.g.: My.OpenID, Yahoo.OpenID...)
>>
>>
>>
>> All news concerning this project will be presented here, at
>> www.dotOpenID.org (a wiki has been opened, but at this time there is still
>> very little material on line)
>>
>>
>>
>> Please give us your opinion, and become a part of this sensational
> project...
>>
>>
>>
>> My thanks to you all,
>>
>>
>>
>> -Snorri
>>
>>
>>
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