[OpenID] [SPAM]Re: PAPE Specification Review Period Commencing
Paul Madsen
paulmadsen at rogers.com
Thu Oct 23 14:36:24 UTC 2008
Peter, to be honest I myself was unaware of all the subtle undertones of
my seemingly simple request for line numbers but, now that you have
hilited them for me, I'm actually a little disappointed in myself to be
part of such political maneuvers.
paul
p.s. In my innocence, I had thought that line numbers would actually
enable open discussion on the lists. Again, I apologize for my naivete.
Peter Williams wrote:
>
> I don't believe in lines for email-based standards processes; on this
> I like the way IETF does it.
>
>
>
> There is a wider issue, beyond simple citation by line numbers, in MY
> view. Their lack forces people to argue the issues (ad nauseam) in
> their own words. This has a nice side effect of teaching the passive
> listeners, too. In general, all this promotes transparency, is
> inclusive, and puts barriers into the adoption of "expert culture". It
> does have a downside: email overload.
>
>
>
> Standardization can quickly become backroom deals, which favors folks
> with access, who have funds for travel and conferences, or who belong
> to particular other Boards, trading groups or investment funds. In
> some forums, that is the prevailing culture (and I don't belong, there
> ). In other forums, with grassroots-based missions (like UCI), the
> process often entails design that retains the grassroots focus.
>
>
>
> When the passion of the argument is evident, and when viewing the
> language use and phrasing of the arguer over time, you can typically
> see from which constituency they hail. At that point, you can look on
> at the consensus of constituencies and gauge the social value of the
> standardization of the market.
>
>
>
> *From:* general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]
> *On Behalf Of *Paul Madsen
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:19 AM
> *To:* Mike Jones
> *Cc:* specs at openid.net; general at openid.net
> *Subject:* [SPAM]Re: [OpenID] PAPE Specification Review Period Commencing
>
>
>
> Hi Mike, if there were an official line numbered version, it would
> enable people providing comments against specific lines
>
> Or is there another preferred mechanism for feedback?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
> Mike Jones wrote:
>
> The OpenID Provider Authentication Policy Extension (PAPE) Working
> Group recommends approval of PAPE Draft 7 as an OpenID Specification.
> The draft is available at these locations:
>
> http://openid.net/specs/openid-provider-authentication-policy-extension-1_0-07.html
>
> http://openid.net/specs/openid-provider-authentication-policy-extension-1_0-07.txt
>
>
>
> This note starts the 60 day public review period for the specification
> draft in accordance with the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and
> procedures. This review period will end on Sunday, December 21st.
> Unless issues are identified during the review that the working group
> believes must be addressed by revising the draft, this review period
> will be followed by a seven day voting period during which OpenID
> Foundation members will vote on whether to approve this draft as an
> OpenID Specification.
>
>
>
> As background, the proposal to create the working group, which the
> membership approved, is available at
> http://openid.net/pipermail/specs/2008-May/002323.html. The
> specifications council report on the creation of the working group is
> available at http://openid.net/pipermail/specs/2008-May/002326.html.
>
>
>
> -- Mike
>
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