[OpenID] Re: OpenID as state-issued ID

SitG Admin sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com
Tue Oct 21 20:32:05 UTC 2008


>this. But Do we really want to put an ID system on the internet?? To me this
>screams "Drivers License" or "State ID" only your trying to do this online.

It's interesting that you should use those as analogies, considering 
they don't support ANY of the concerns you've expressed:

>That is an extremely scary thought. I don't want to login to my favorite
>porn site or whatever kind of site and have website owner immediately have
>all of my personal information.

How does a driver's license or state ID give someone access to ALL 
your personal information? Are states in the habit now of printing 
E-mail addresses, home addresses, phone numbers, and your medical 
details on the ID card? For the record, mine has a P.O. box - about 
the most you can learn from it (that wouldn't be obvious just from 
*looking* at me) is the DoB.

>Or for that matter how do you plan on
>keeping users of the open ID from tracking peoples website visiting habits?

I didn't realize we lived in a police state already - I regularly go 
to various locations, and NOONE demands (or even asks) that I show 
them my ID (for this reason, I don't even *carry* any ID with me, 
usually), so it's quite impossible for people at those locations to 
figure out where else I've been.

(Well, technically not *impossible*, but at that point it's a 
spurious argument - the ID card can't possibly be how they're 
tracking me, so it's fallacious to imply a connection.)

And even if they *did* demand my ID, so what? Are they going to mark 
it with some special non-removable tag that shows *other* stores 
(possibly their competitors!) where I've been? How do they force me 
to return there so they can read the tags which their competitors' 
stores, presumably, have been adding?

In other words, how do they force the ID to be associated with other 
locations and how do they find out this information after it's been 
updated?

-Shade



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