[OpenID] OpenID on change.gov

[Chris Messina]

To expand on this, the value in the Disqus and IntenseDebate systems is that
a user can sign up for an account on either mainline site (centrally on
disqus.com or intensedebate.com) and then reuse those accounts elsewhere.
Moreover, by using a verified identifier (without having to divulge one's
password to an untrusted third party site), you can then go back to the
mainline sites to see an aggregated view of the comments you've left on the
sites that support any of these systems.

Of course it requires many sites and commenting forms to adopt either of
these services, but it demonstrates a value of being able to leave a comment
in the wild and then see follow up responses in one place (a user-centric
value-add).

Chris

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Sam Alexander <sam.alexander at vidoop.com>wrote:

> Eric, you are confusing adoption and usefulness. While you are right,
> there are probably very few OpenID-backed comments, OpenID's
> usefulness is an entirely different question.
>
> OpenID remains a powerful extension of Identity on the web. While a
> common username/email comment adds no RECIPROCAL value to the
> commentor, an OpenID comment WOULD. It would allow that comment to be
> attributed to a specific, verified URL owner.
>
> While few of the 3,000 commentors may be aware of this value. The
> added value still exists.
>
> - Sam Alexander
>
> On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Eric Norman <ejnorman at doit.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
> >
> >> Its a request for comments: thats a classical use of openid: and no
> >> authority is required to uniquely leave your/a (citable) web id
> >> attached to your opinion. Its easy to fllowup with uou, given the
> >> inherent linkback to the identity page.
> >
> > It appears that anyone can leave a comment without the OpenID
> > stuff or without going through some registration process.
> > Furthermore, I doubt if they have either the time or motivation
> > to follow up on anything.  Nevertheless, they do provide you
> > with a way to provide an optional email address.
> >
> > Hence, I'll repeat the question.  Why would anyone want to use
> > OpenID here?  I seems to add nothing more than extra work.
> >
> > Or let me put it this way.  As of yesterday, there were close
> > to 3,000 comments on health care.  How many of those do you
> > think used OpenID to leave their comment?  I'll bet on close
> > to zero.
> >
> >> If the founding openid culture doesn't fit with grassroots
> >> commenting,
> >> where does it fit!?
> >
> > Where it adds value.
> >
> > By the way Peter, it seem that your system is the one adding
> > "LIKELY SPAM" to subject lines.
> >
> > Eric Norman
> >
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