[OpenID] [QUAR] Re: Independent study on OpenID awareness using Mechanical Turk
Paul Madsen
paulmadsen at rogers.com
Tue Nov 18 15:29:15 UTC 2008
Hi Chris, to clarify. I wasn't suggesting that OpenID should be
'invisible', just :
1) pointing out that SAML is (except in some rare cases)
2) large OPs appears to be heading in that direction
3) posing the question as to whether a user that is 'aware' of OpenID is
better off than another oblivious to the fact (I don't know the answer)
Thanks
Paul
Chris Messina wrote:
> There have been subsequent responses that I thought were interesting
> and worth sharing:
>
> http://connectid.blogspot.com/2008/11/naval-gazing_17.html
>
> Paul suggests that the study amounts to "navel gazing" and that OpenID
> should be a background technology, like SAML, and users shouldn't have
> to become aware of it -- thus, this survey is asking the wrong
> question (i.e. who cares whether people identity or know what OpenID is?).
>
> I talked about branding OpenID in one of my subsequent posts, so I
> won't rehash my thoughts on that here.
>
> http://idlogger.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/statistical-entrails-reading/
>
> Jeff Bohren follows up and suggests that the larger OpenID providers
> (here's lookin' at you, Yahoo and AOL) who have been up for awhile
> should be sharing statistics on use of their endpoints, *EVEN* if (as
> I suspect), adoption and usage are infinitesimally small, so that we
> can gauge uptake over time.
>
> It would seem to me that this is work that the OIDF should be
> facilitating, and something that Brian Kissel, vis-a-vis the marketing
> team, should be working on.
>
> What needs to happen to get the large (or even smaller) OPs to start
> providing data about use of accounts with OpenID? Maybe Brian Ellin
> could throw something up on AppEngine to aggregate these numbers?
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Nat Sakimura <sakimura at gmail.com
> <mailto:sakimura at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> +100 !
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Brian Kissel
> <bkissel at janrain.com <mailto:bkissel at janrain.com>> wrote:
>
> Congrats Chris, well done!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Brian
>
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> *Cc:* Brynn Evans; Luke Sontag; Scott Kveton
> *Subject:* [QUAR] Re: Independent study on OpenID awareness
> using Mechanical Turk
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> ZDNet picked up the study:
>
>
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/community/?p=131
>
>
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris Messina
> <chris.messina at gmail.com <mailto:chris.messina at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Wanted to share the results of a study that Brynn Evans and I
> completed at the end of October:
>
>
>
> http://tr.im/mturk_openid
>
> It cost me about $6 to collect responses from 301 people on
> Mechanical Turk. I felt that it was important to look into a
> wider sample size than Yahoo's study which was composed of 9
> female Yahoo members in their thirties. In particular, many
> people drew conclusions from that small sample size about
> OpenID's awareness that I felt were unfounded and decided to
> seek out an independent analysis of a larger data set.
>
>
>
> The original source data is available here:
>
>
>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pSGbbhtwI4kOhPusNx8Kycg
>
>
>
> Thoughts welcomed,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
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