[OpenID] Correlating Identifiers

Allen Tom atom at yahoo-inc.com
Thu Nov 6 00:06:46 UTC 2008


Hi Nate -

By default, Yahoo users get a single machine generated OpenID identifier 
which is used at all RPs that the user signs into. Because the 
identifier is not unique to the RP, the user can be identified across 
multiple sites.

Prior to launching our OpenID service, Yahoo's policy with our 
proprietary SSO service was to issue RP-specific identifiers to prevent 
RPs from sharing data about the user and correlating user behavior 
across different sites.

Based on our discussions with the OpenID community, we concluded that 
the spirit of OpenID is to allow a user to reuse the same identity 
across the net, which implied that we should not vary the identifier 
that is returned to RPs. We believe that there is value in having an 
identifier with a reputation attached to it, and that in the future, RPs 
may be able to take the user's reputation into account to optimize the 
content and services given to first time visitors.

I believe that Google is returning unique identifiers for each RP that 
the user signs into, which is different than Yahoo's implementation. 
However, Google is sharing the user's email address which arguably is 
better suited for identity consolidation/correlation compared to an 
OpenID URL.

Allen


Nate Klingenstein wrote:
> Nat,
>
> I agree, and I'm glad you highlighted this.  Privacy also pertains 
> strongly to other attributes.  I think consistent use of AX as a 
> transport protocol makes it much easier for sites to give proper 
> privacy options to users.
>
> Separately, persistent opaque identifiers are a really good thing, 
> especially when unique to a particular RP/SP.  When Yahoo first made 
> the decision to use them as the default in their implementation, I was 
> worried that most of their applications, users, and developers would 
> be baffled, and didn't know why they weren't targeted.  I wonder if 
> Allen has any new words of wisdom to share now that he has experience 
> with them in practice.
>
> Take care,
> Nate.
>
>> Now, IMHO, privacy advocates have much to say on this: correlations. 
>> So, we should tread carefully in this area, though. 
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