[OpenID] Real Identity Verification

[George Fletcher]

jyte.com [1] starts to deal with option 2 (and I'm sure there are 
others). The interesting thing with friend claims, is whether the 
"reputation" or "strength of relationship" matters in the "verification" 
calculation.

Thanks
George

[1] http://www.jyte.com

Steven Livingstone-Perez wrote:
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> This is interesting Eddy.
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> I kind of see three ways that this kind of OpenID “verification” can 
> happen.
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> 1.       Reputation
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> a.       In this case, the longer you use your OpenID, the more people 
> will come to know it is associated with you. I’d be interested in how 
> we could explicitly extend this concept to support a distributed 
> reputation system where you can attach OpenID Reputation points which 
> are assigned from other sites. These could even be broken down into 
> types of reputation. The longer and more you use it the more 
> reputation points. Even sending an email that isn’t spam etc via Gmail 
> or Windows Live could “increment” your reputation score (like 
> pagerank, but for OpenID).
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> 2.       Friend Verification
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> a.       Slightly more explicit and extension of the above whereby 
> friends can verify things you write down about yourself so that others 
> can trust them more. John says he works at Google Inc and Brian has 
> verified this etc.
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> 3.       Central Validation
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> a.       Shibboleth model and probably needed for institutions who 
> perhaps verify things such as “Yes, this is definitely Dr. 
> Livingstone” etc.
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> Does your Web of Trust concept tie in more with number 3 than the 
> others or is if more about associating an OpenID with a cert so that 
> saying something with your OpenID can be strongly verified (e.g. via 
> the associated dig sig?).
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> steven
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> http://livz.org
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> *From:* Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) [mailto:eddy_nigg at startcom.org]
> *Sent:* 04 November 2008 09:34
> *To:* Steven Livingstone-Perez
> *Cc:* general at openid.net
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID] Real Identity Verification
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> Arrrrg... https://blog.startcom.org/?p=128
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> Sorry and thanks!
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> On 11/04/2008 11:37 AM, Steven Livingstone-Perez:
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> Eddy, where can I find this article?
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> *From:* general-bounces at openid.net <mailto:general-bounces at openid.net> 
> [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] *On Behalf Of *Eddy Nigg (StartCom 
> Ltd.)
> *Sent:* 04 November 2008 09:31
> *To:* Rebecca Cannon
> *Cc:* general at openid.net <mailto:general at openid.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID] Real Identity Verification
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> Rebecca, I forgot about it, but let me shamelessly promote a small 
> article concerning identity validation in relation to OpenID I just 
> wrote recently. Here validations including ones which are performed by 
> a community network come into play. Thanks. :-)
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> On 11/04/2008 11:23 AM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.):
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> There are some providers which can provide you this service, please 
> see http://www.startssl.com/?app=14
> For example my ID is here: https://eddyn.startssl.com/
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> However no useful exchange protocol or standard for OpenID exists 
> really to automatically on such information, but Nat, who also posted 
> a reply to your question, is working on setting up a work group for 
> trust exchange (TX) which might facilitate such exchange of 
> information. I expect TX to be highly interesting in this respect.
>
> For now I guess you'll have to hand-pick the providers which do 
> perform real identity validations.
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> Regards 
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> On 11/04/2008 07:10 AM, Rebecca Cannon:
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> Hi all
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> I'm researching a new online service that I will be building. I want 
> to use Open ID, however we're going to require real-world 
> identification verification, as the service will have legally binding 
> information in it.
>
> Just wondering whether open id is being used with real-world 
> identification verification, and what the list's thoughts are on this.
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> Thanks,
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> Rebecca
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