[OpenID] Affliating OpenID sign ups

[Drummond Reed]

+1. Well said, Bill. I would go so far as to say some of the corporations
now involved are here BECAUSE it is a community-led effort. The only way
that would ever change is if the community stops leading.

 

Given the set of voices we have here.I don't see that happening any time
soon ;-)

 

=Drummond  

 

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From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Washburn
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:08 PM
To: Peter Williams
Cc: general at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Affliating OpenID sign ups

 

Hey...Peter,

Dare to make a positive difference!  Why don't you fight the good fight and
help the OpenID *community* flourish by doing a good thing: joining, voting,
helping make the mettle of governance in the community a little stronger
with your strident opinions?  Or as the old saying goes, Rather than shout
at the darkness, light a candle.

As I see it, there are no immutable laws of the universe, natural or
otherwise, written in stone somewhere that compel the inevitability of your
logic that corporate interests must win and  community interests must
suffer.  OIDF is fully an intentional design by the OpenID Foundation Board
to sustain and help the OpenID community.  Help us keep the founding charter
as it came from Brad et al. to serve everyone freely as envisioned.  Indeed,
this intentional community is known well to the entire Board. Nothing else
would do.

cheers,
-bill

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>
wrote:

Affiliation protocols for OPs and the clickpass' idea (sp-centric trust
model enforcement) are both topics that could be standardized to make an
open market - addressing RPs.

But, the point of being a(ny) board member is to ensure that only
"certain" standards activities are actually authorized/endorsed by the
"Board" : the ones that benefit your investments. Then you "present" the
rationale as "community interest", and "common good", etc etc - as to
why certain things are not engaged in.

If like ICANN/DNS you had community board members per grassroot
involvement, who get all "user-interest focused" vs
"corporate/money/defense focused" you change the governance rules so
there simply are no more community board seats :-). Only govt/corporate
types are allowed in the club.

Be fun to see how long the "nobody owns this" philosophy lasts, now big
money is in the air. I give it 6 months, till folks are fighting in the
backroom over stuff. Nobody owns it will suddenly turn into ... well
what we meant on referred "the core protocol". Of course! "service
innovations" are allowed (that the Board will not allow to be
standardized) that only some parties will own!

Governance is hard. The early adoptors have to have some early lead - to
payoff the bets and investments. But, standards means they don't get
much of a head start, over the mere "followers". Governance is supposed
to allow politics to manage those contrary goals. Governance always
tests the mettle of a community.

Peter.



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> Behalf Of Chris Obdam
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: general at openid.net
> Subject: [OpenID] Affliating OpenID sign ups
>
> Hi,
>
> myOpenID facilitates OpenID consumers a sign p service. It's called
> affliliating. Are there plans integrating this kind of functionality
> in to OpenID?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Chris Obdam
> OpenID Netherlands
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