[OpenID] OpenID in India - What stops you from using OpenID?

[Martin Paljak]

2008/6/26 Dick Hardt <dick at sxip.com>:
> On 26-Jun-08, at 7:57 AM, Martin Paljak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 3)     No Patent -Open ID is a free framework (without any patent ),
>>>> which can be implemented by anyone (even hackers and phishers), this
>>>> makes it very vulnerable for hackers and users tend to have limited
>>>> trust in such applications. No wonder the user base is still very
>>>> low for it.
>>
>> It's only a matter of time before any closed or 'patented' technology
>> is broken by some curious good or malicious bad guy. I don't
>> understand how a patented or not-free technology could catch up faster
>> than a open and free one? Make a test. Have a party with free beer and
>> 10€/pint beer and see which has a bigger user base.
>
> Bad example. The free beer party will have any yahoo (pun intended) looking
> for free beer. The party where people pay will have people there because
> they want to be there. Your test demonstrates the value of paying for
> something. I don't think that is what you intended.

Agreed, that was not clear enough.

What I wanted to say that "no patents -> not secure -> no users" does not apply.

Patents (in theory) are used to protect a market position or to
monetize on the "idea". Either way it is enforced when somebody
decides it is time to put the patent into use and enforcing usually
means getting $$$.

Anyway, if you had a party with free beer you'd be asking for trouble
with drunkards looking for booze. BUT if you were to make your beer
decision between two options:

If you had a party with cheap pilsner for free and some kickass
Belgian ale for 10$ I would understand if some (beer fanatic or just
elitist) people would go for the 10$ refresher. If you offered real
piss for free and good ale for 10$, 10$ might win the heart of many.
If you offered piss for free and drinkable pilsner for 10$.. well... I
would find some other party!

I'd place OpenID somewhere in the 'strange drinkable export premium' class ;)

I'd like to demonstrate, that people would go for "expensive and good"
(== "patented and secure") only if there is no other option or if they
eat up the marketing.

Martin.