[OpenID] Musing on FaceBook, OpenID and the next mountain to climb

[Nat Sakimura]

I'd volunteer, but, for drafting the WG charter,
I need more input from the people on this list on
what should be in the scope.

For me, I was thinking of the below for sometime:

1) Contralct Negotiation Protocol
   - Negotiates the terms of the use, and back channel data transfer  
protocol.
2) Reputation Service Protocol
   - Means to obtain the trustworthiness score of an assertion.

In terms of Johannes's enumeration:

>   - single-sign-on across the web with a simple user experience
   => OpenID Authentication 2.0 + some more security features.

>   - high-quality identity information available to RPs
   => 1) + 2) above.

>   - social network information available to RPs
   => 1) + 2) above.

>   - communication from RP into the social network of the user
   => I am still vague on what it will be like.
      Could someone post a concrete example usecase, please?

=nat



On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:05:48 +0900, Johannes Ernst  
<jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us> wrote:

> Like others, I've been amazed about what Facebook has put together
> with Facebook Connect as announced last week.
>
> Their proposition for relying parties seems to be:
>
>   - single-sign-on across the web with a simple user experience
>   - high-quality identity information available to RPs
>   - social network information available to RPs
>   - communication from RP into the social network of the user
>
> and IMHO, that is indeed a great business proposition for RPs.
>
> Of course, they seem to be building this with Facebook-specific
> protocols, but that's not surprising given that the OpenID technology
> stack right now is insufficient to accomplish what they wanted to
> accomplish. But not dramatically so -- it might just be plugging some
> other technologies into OpenID (like XFN or FOAF etc.) and filling in
> some gaps if one wanted to do that.
>
> So ... methinks we should grow the OpenID stack over the next 6-12
> months to be able to do all of this (and more?) with open
> technologies. This would also make OpenID much more interesting to
> relying parties...
>
> Open protocols are clearly necessary to grow the entire market, which
> would be in the interest of everybody including Facebook.
>
> Anybody up to getting an OpenID working group started up to work on
> this?
>
> [Feel free to respond on the list or privately.]
>
>
>
> Johannes Ernst
> NetMesh Inc.
>
>



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=nat