[OpenID] OWS-6 Support Request

Tue Dec 16 22:08:13 UTC 2008

Nat,

I was not aware of this and will look into that signature method.   
This would be for both OpenID and OAuth I suppose right?
Pat.

On Dec 16, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Nat wrote:

> This is very interesting. For Government related project, we should  
> consider using RSA-SHA1 message signing which is expected in AuthN  
> 2.1, as otherwise it cannot fulfil any of the NIST SP800-63 levels.
>
> It will also serve as a live example of the new method/feature. OIDF  
> should definitely help this out.
>
> Nat Sakimura
>
> =nat at TOKYO via iPhone
>
> On 2008/12/17, at 5:03, David Recordon <drecordon at sixapart.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Pat,
>> I think it would be finding a few parties interested in building  
>> the demonstration and then figuring out how the Foundation could  
>> help to make that happen.  The Foundation should be helping to push  
>> something forward versus being the gate keeper of starting things.
>>
>> --David
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Pat Cappelaere wrote:
>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> As you know we are trying to penetrate the NASA/DOD market and  
>>> demonstrate OpenID+OAuth during an Open Geospatial Consortium  
>>> demonstration in March as it could apply to automated workflows.   
>>> We will have to write an engineering report describing our  
>>> findings.  There are many companies looking at this.
>>>
>>> http://xml.coverpages.org/OGC-OWS6-Testbed.html
>>>
>>> We are trying to present a RESTful alternative to SOAP WS-*  
>>> approach for a different market.
>>>
>>> The scenario we have to work with is different from what Google  
>>> and Yahoo have in mind (SP=OP in their case) so I am not seeing  
>>> any interest in opening up the working group to a new member to  
>>> discuss the issue further and try to support us.
>>>
>>> If the OIDF were to be interested in this technology demonstration  
>>> from a strategic perspective, what would be the next steps?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pat.
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another item that I forgot to put on the list, we could certainly  
>>>> benefit from a concerted community-wide effort to identify and  
>>>> reach out to potentially receptive prospective RPs, especially  
>>>> mainstream highly visible sites.  As some of you may know, we  
>>>> created http://demand.openid.net/ to let OpenID users vote for  
>>>> what sites you’d like to see OpenID-enabled.  The idea was that  
>>>> if we could create a groundswell of demand for the top requested  
>>>> sites, we could use that data to encourage those sites to  
>>>> implement OpenID.  It got some initial interest and  
>>>> participation, but has died off lately.  It’s a bit difficult  
>>>> since it requires installing a bookmarklet in your browser then  
>>>> remembering to use it.
>>>>
>>>> We can certainly continue to send emails to info@, support@,  
>>>> webmaster@ but those usually don’t go anywhere.  Personally, I’ve  
>>>> been using my college and business networks along with LinkedIn,  
>>>> but that only get us so far.  But if the entire OpenID community  
>>>> could leverage our collective networks, that could be  
>>>> meaningful.  For example, it would be great to have Wikipedia or  
>>>> Craigslist implement OpenID, but we need introductions into the  
>>>> organizations.  I’ve personally been advocating that we target  
>>>> “content providers” – media companies (film, tv, radio, music,  
>>>> newspapers, sports, etc.) and affinity groups (corp & academic  
>>>> alumni networks, clubs, boy scouts, AARP, trade associations,  
>>>> etc.).  BBC, 4-H, and AARP are already members of the OIDF.   
>>>> These organizations should be more receptive since they want to  
>>>> register lots of users/members and make it easy for them to  
>>>> login, and longer term to possibly share social networking  
>>>> profile information.  Additionally, their primary focus isn’t  
>>>> purely commerce, so we don’t have to have all the aspects of  
>>>> commerce worked out to be of immediate value to them.
>>>>
>>>> So if anyone on this list knows people at companies or  
>>>> organizations that should be implementing OpenID, contact them.   
>>>> Let them know about the OpenID Foundation and our website.   
>>>> Encourage them to join the Foundation and/or a mailing list to  
>>>> monitor a topic of interest to them.  If they’d like to discuss  
>>>> joining the OpenID Foundation, have them contact any of the  
>>>> members of the Membership committee: Dewitt Clinton, Gary Krall,  
>>>> David Recordon, or Brian Kissel (me).  If they want to  
>>>> participate in customer research, have them contact Johannes  
>>>> Ernst, Raj Mata, Scott Kveton, or me.  You can see who the  
>>>> members of the various committees are at: http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID_Foundation/Committees
>>>>
>>>> If they want to implement OpenID on their websites, point them to  
>>>> the various open source libraries or service providers that help  
>>>> companies with implementation.  And yes, this is self-serving for  
>>>> JanRain since we do both, but feel free to point them to any  
>>>> resources that you think can help them.  For OpenID to expand its  
>>>> relevance beyond tech savvy users and user generated content  
>>>> applications, we need broader mainstream RP adoption.  I’m  
>>>> hopeful that as soon as an average person can think of a dozen or  
>>>> more sites where they can use their OpenID, we’ll start to reach  
>>>> an inflection point where users start to demand this kind of user  
>>>> experience.
>>>>
>>>> Again, we welcome everyone who is interested to join the  
>>>> marketing mailing list to provide your suggestions and feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>> ==============
>>>> Brian Kissel
>>>> Cell: 503.866.4424
>>>> Fax: 503.296.5502
>>>>
>>>> From: Chris Messina [mailto:chris.messina at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:16 PM
>>>> To: Brian Kissel
>>>> Cc: OpenID List; board at openid.net; Zac Bjelogrlic
>>>> Subject: Re: Status of the Customer Research Committee (Was: Re:  
>>>> [OpenID] Several Questions for the Current & Future Board)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Brian. This is a great start!
>>>>
>>>> I've recorded these on the wiki for now:
>>>>
>>>> https://openid.pbwiki.com/Marketing
>>>>
>>>> Would definitely be great to start thinking about planning  
>>>> specific agenda/action items and tasks to take these on in 2009!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Brian Kissel  
>>>> <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
>>>> Agreed we need to get more systematic about this.  It'
>>>>
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