[OpenID] OWS-6 Support Request

Tue Dec 16 22:05:18 UTC 2008

This is very interesting. For Government related project, we should  
consider using RSA-SHA1 message signing which is expected in AuthN  
2.1, as otherwise it cannot fulfil any of the NIST SP800-63 levels.

It will also serve as a live example of the new method/feature. OIDF  
should definitely help this out.

Nat Sakimura

=nat at TOKYO via iPhone

On 2008/12/17, at 5:03, David Recordon <drecordon at sixapart.com> wrote:

> Hey Pat,
> I think it would be finding a few parties interested in building the  
> demonstration and then figuring out how the Foundation could help to  
> make that happen.  The Foundation should be helping to push  
> something forward versus being the gate keeper of starting things.
>
> --David
>
> On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Pat Cappelaere wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> As you know we are trying to penetrate the NASA/DOD market and  
>> demonstrate OpenID+OAuth during an Open Geospatial Consortium  
>> demonstration in March as it could apply to automated workflows.   
>> We will have to write an engineering report describing our  
>> findings.  There are many companies looking at this.
>>
>> http://xml.coverpages.org/OGC-OWS6-Testbed.html
>>
>> We are trying to present a RESTful alternative to SOAP WS-*  
>> approach for a different market.
>>
>> The scenario we have to work with is different from what Google and  
>> Yahoo have in mind (SP=OP in their case) so I am not seeing any  
>> interest in opening up the working group to a new member to discuss  
>> the issue further and try to support us.
>>
>> If the OIDF were to be interested in this technology demonstration  
>> from a strategic perspective, what would be the next steps?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pat.
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:
>>
>>> Another item that I forgot to put on the list, we could certainly  
>>> benefit from a concerted community-wide effort to identify and  
>>> reach out to potentially receptive prospective RPs, especially  
>>> mainstream highly visible sites.  As some of you may know, we  
>>> created http://demand.openid.net/ to let OpenID users vote for  
>>> what sites you’d like to see OpenID-enabled.  The idea was that  
>>> if we could create a groundswell of demand for the top requested 
>>>  sites, we could use that data to encourage those sites to imple 
>>> ment OpenID.  It got some initial interest and participation, bu 
>>> t has died off lately.  It’s a bit difficult since it requires i 
>>> nstalling a bookmarklet in your browser then remembering to use it.
>>>
>>> We can certainly continue to send emails to info@, support@,  
>>> webmaster@ but those usually don’t go anywhere.  Personally, I’v 
>>> e been using my college and business networks along with LinkedI 
>>> n, but that only get us so far.  But if the entire OpenID commun 
>>> ity could leverage our collective networks, that could be meanin 
>>> gful.  For example, it would be great to have Wikipedia or Craig 
>>> slist implement OpenID, but we need introductions into the organ 
>>> izations.  I’ve personally been advocating that we target “conte 
>>> nt providers” – media companies (film, tv, radio, music, newspap 
>>> ers, sports, etc.) and affinity groups (corp & academic alumni n 
>>> etworks, clubs, boy scouts, AARP, trade associations, etc.).  BB 
>>> C, 4-H, and AARP are already members of the OIDF.  These organiz 
>>> ations should be more receptive since they want to register lots 
>>>  of users/members and make it easy for them to login, and longer 
>>>  term to possibly share social networking profile information.   
>>> Additionally, their primary focus isn’t purely commerce, so we d 
>>> on’t have to have all the aspects of commerce worked out to be o 
>>> f immediate value to them.
>>>
>>> So if anyone on this list knows people at companies or  
>>> organizations that should be implementing OpenID, contact them.   
>>> Let them know about the OpenID Foundation and our website.   
>>> Encourage them to join the Foundation and/or a mailing list to  
>>> monitor a topic of interest to them.  If they’d like to discuss  
>>> joining the OpenID Foundation, have them contact any of the memb 
>>> ers of the Membership committee: Dewitt Clinton, Gary Krall, Dav 
>>> id Recordon, or Brian Kissel (me).  If they want to participate  
>>> in customer research, have them contact Johannes Ernst, Raj Mata 
>>> , Scott Kveton, or me.  You can see who the members of the vario 
>>> us committees are at: http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID_Foundation/Committees
>>>
>>> If they want to implement OpenID on their websites, point them to  
>>> the various open source libraries or service providers that help  
>>> companies with implementation.  And yes, this is self-serving for  
>>> JanRain since we do both, but feel free to point them to any  
>>> resources that you think can help them.  For OpenID to expand its  
>>> relevance beyond tech savvy users and user generated content  
>>> applications, we need broader mainstream RP adoption.  I’m hopef 
>>> ul that as soon as an average person can think of a dozen or mor 
>>> e sites where they can use their OpenID, we’ll start to reach an 
>>>  inflection point where users start to demand this kind of user  
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Again, we welcome everyone who is interested to join the marketing  
>>> mailing list to provide your suggestions and feedback.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> ==============
>>> Brian Kissel
>>> Cell: 503.866.4424
>>> Fax: 503.296.5502
>>>
>>> From: Chris Messina [mailto:chris.messina at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:16 PM
>>> To: Brian Kissel
>>> Cc: OpenID List; board at openid.net; Zac Bjelogrlic
>>> Subject: Re: Status of the Customer Research Committee (Was: Re:  
>>> [OpenID] Several Questions for the Current & Future Board)
>>>
>>> Thanks Brian. This is a great start!
>>>
>>> I've recorded these on the wiki for now:
>>>
>>> https://openid.pbwiki.com/Marketing
>>>
>>> Would definitely be great to start thinking about planning  
>>> specific agenda/action items and tasks to take these on in 2009!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Brian Kissel  
>>> <bkissel at janrain.com> wrote:
>>> Agreed we need to get more systematic about this.  It'
>>>
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