[OpenID] general Digest, Vol 28, Issue 116

Pat Cappelaere pat at cappelaere.com
Sun Dec 14 22:28:51 UTC 2008


I agree with Eran too.
I would actually refuse to work on a WG with anonymous people.  Names,  
email and employers disclosure is a must.
Sorry to disagree with you on that point too.
Pat.


On Dec 14, 2008, at 3:51 PM, John Bradley wrote:

> I agree with Eran.
>
> As a member of several Standards organizations all of my  
> contributions and correspondence relating to IPR governed work are a  
> matter of public record.
>
> I have come to accept that contributing in these forums requires me  
> to give up my anonymity to an extent.  While it is reasonable for  
> OASIS to publish my email it would not be reasonable for them to  
> publish my home address.   Unless I am missing something I don't  
> think the OIDF is considering that sort of disclosure.
>
> However I do also believe that members not participating in IPR  
> related work have a right to there privacy,  and protection of there  
> personal information.
>
> I am also running for the board,  If you are going to vote against  
> Eran on this you issue can vote against me as well.
>
> Yes I am a terrible campaigner:)
>
> Regards
> John Bradley
> =jbradley
>
>
> On 14-Dec-08, at 3:05 PM, general-request at openid.net wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:07:37 -0700
>> From: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran at hueniverse.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Shade's questions - Privacy for Foundation
>> 	members
>> To: SitG Admin <sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com>
>> Cc: "general at openid.net" <general at openid.net>
>> Message-ID:
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>> >
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>> The foundation should not be handing out personal information for  
>> any other purposes than to obey its bylaws (for example, sending  
>> notifications as legally required will mean giving someone with an  
>> administrative capacity access to the mailing lists). Members  
>> should have an opt-in way to allow their name and city/country to  
>> be listed, with optionally their employer. But this should not  
>> imply I care much about privacy either way (since pretending such a  
>> thing exists online is a fantasy).
>>
>> This is not the same for those wishing to contribute to an actual  
>> specification. There should be no anonymity or privacy in that  
>> process. Standards work requires IPR policies, which in turn  
>> require you sign some sort of a license. If you are employed (or  
>> otherwise do not control your IP), you must disclose it and that  
>> information must be made public to anyone asking for it. It is  
>> reasonable to hide your personal home address when publishing such  
>> documents online, but since these are legal documents, must be  
>> provided unchanged to those who make an official request for them.
>>
>> Personally, I will not allow you to contribute anonymously to any  
>> specification I am the editor of. This does not meet my requirement  
>> for worthwhile and legally sound participation.
>>
>> I cannot imagine any reason for you to hide behind an alias. So to  
>> answer your original question about anonymity in the foundation,  
>> yes, I would tell such people their contribution isn't welcome.
>>
>> EHL
>
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