[OpenID] Shade's questions - Privacy for Foundation members
SitG Admin
sysadmin at shadowsinthegarden.com
Sun Dec 14 09:56:50 UTC 2008
>Beside the legal requirement of running a corporation (which is what
>the OpenID foundation is),
So, if I get hired on at Microsoft as a janitor ("sanitation
engineer"), I join the elite group of Microsoft-employed stalkers who
can acquire the personal information of other stalkers who work at
Microsoft?
Sharing with law enforcement *when a subpoena has been granted by the
judge* is one thing. Giving away a user's personal information in
response to a faxed-in request made on Law Enforcement letterhead
(*cough* eBay), a claim to be that person's employer (*cough*
Facebook - sorry), or during the simple course of handing out
publicity materials (*cough* OIDF?!?), is quite another.
Running a corporation does not require management to readily yield
the personal information of their employees to any interested party.
I'm not sure what other "legal requirement" could prevent a
corporation from having ANY policy about its employee's privacy.
(Since we are not "employed" by the OIDF in any traditional/monetary
paying sense, this analogy does not quite work. But it seems the
closest equivalent.)
>How can you find common ground with someone who will not reveal
>their identity and intentions?
How can you know the identity of someone who does not tell you
everything about themselves, reveal to you every handle they have
ever used, and share their hopes and dreams for the future with you?
I submit that it is sufficient to know *some* of who a person is;
that, in lieu of certainty (proof) that the compartmentalized
identity they have presented to you is their "primary" identity
(possessing the lion's share of their identifying data), it would be
adequate to, after interaction/evaluation, treat that "less than
everything" "identity" as a person just as real as others about whom
you know just as much (little).
Okay, more simply put - unless you are in the habit of running
background checks on everyone you interact with, just to find out
whether they are keeping any secrets from you (i.e. not telling you
everything; leaving out, ANYthing), you probably won't know the
difference when you *do* encounter "partial" individuals.
If dishonest as well as private, you almost *certainly* won't,
because they'll give a real-sounding name that simply happens to not
be theirs. And who can tell? Is someone going to step forward and say
"I looked but there is NOONE in the geographical area we can assume
this person to live in, who has that name."? I may look around and
see one blog giving this person's name, another 20 or so referring to
it - but where did *they* get *their* information? Did *anyone* know,
did anyone confirm this identity outside the (network) channels used
to advertise it?
Is the difference here between incidentally "not revealing" all of
their identity/intentions (but not telling anyone), and
*deliberately* (with privacy aforethought!) withholding the
identity/intentions that aren't relevant to the situation? (In one's
own judgement, of course - but note, this is the same rationale that
goes into *incidentally* not revealing such things!) If so, the
process seems to favor those who are secretive - only the innocent
would single themselves out for such punishment. Hardly the
environment designed to encourage/foster honesty!
-Shade (an obvious pseudonym, not a real-sounding name)
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