[OpenID] Purpose of OpenID Foundation and the Elections

David Recordon drecordon at sixapart.com
Sat Dec 13 16:00:14 UTC 2008


Hey Pat,
I think it's something that is hard to predict the best answer to and  
a decision that cannot be made by the OpenID community alone.  Getting  
to agreement between communities that we need a marketable brand for  
the "open stack" is the first step.  The second is deciding what that  
brand is.

Just as the Data Portability group pissed off a lot of people by  
saying that it would represent their technologies, I'm afraid that if  
we unilaterally decide that OpenID will be this brand without first  
spending time talking and working with others that the same will  
occur.  It isn't just the OpenID community or Foundation to decide  
that we want OpenID to be this brand, but a collective decision  
between our community and a few others.

If taken lightly, we will fail.

--David

On Dec 13, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Pat Cappelaere wrote:

> I actually was hoping that more candidates would articulate their  
> positions on that matter :(
> Raising a question is not quite sufficient.
> Sorry :(
> But I would like to thank Tom for declaring his position.
> Pat.
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2008, at 5:31 AM, David Recordon wrote:
>
>> And this is the million dollar question! :)
>>
>> Should OpenID become the brand of the overall Open Stack or be a  
>> piece of technology that makes up a new brand.
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2008, at 3:06 AM, Pat Cappelaere wrote:
>>
>>> The question was about the branding position of the new board.
>>> I am not sure that the OIDF could take over that Open Stack and  
>>> brand
>>> it... Or this is what you are advocating?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pat.
>>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Allen Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pat,
>>>>
>>>> Is this question about branding, or a question about the underlying
>>>> protocols and technologies?
>>>>
>>>> As far as branding is concerned, my personal belief is that there
>>>> should be a single Open Stack Brand that includes OpenID, OAuth,
>>>> XRD, Portable Contacts, XMPP, and other complimentary protocols.
>>>> Most of the news articles that I've seen about Facebook Connect
>>>> refer to OpenID as the open alternative to Connect, but OpenID as a
>>>> technology is just a small component of the stack that is needed to
>>>> mimic Connect. Given that OpenID is already perceived to be the  
>>>> Open
>>>> Stack, it might make sense to just group them all into one brand
>>>> under OpenID name.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking as an engineer, in my opinion, it's far more important to
>>>> actually build and deploy an integrated solution than it is to  
>>>> worry
>>>> about branding. That being said, a solution called OpenID/OAuth/ 
>>>> XRD/
>>>> PoCo/XMPP/XFN/hCard deserves a catchy name.
>>>>
>>>> Allen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pat Cappelaere wrote:
>>>>> I would really like to hear from the candidates about OpenID
>>>>> branding  and their position on possible brand extension with  
>>>>> OAuth.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is their brand definition for OpenID and whether or not OAuth
>>>>> would be a natural extension?
>>>>>
>>>>> I really like the discussion that started with Eran and Johannes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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