[OpenID] A selector for OpenID

Max Metral max at artsalliancelabs.com
Sat Apr 19 14:29:09 UTC 2008


Yeah, I really agree with Peter here.  There is nothing inherent in the
tool that requires an "app key" or any sort of locking into Janrain.  I
don't begrudge them the attempt or desire to build a large "addressable"
installed widget base, and in fact for most people it will be just fine.
For me, I would only use it if I could have all the resources served
locally, or at worst some img tag with a "delayed" javascript load.  So
I think that basically puts the question to Brian and Janrain of "Was
your primary goal to build widget installs or to help OpenId?  If the
latter, would you just give out the code, perhaps with a branding and
link requirement but w/o resource hosting?"

I would be totally fine with "widget installs" and "no," but it'd
probably make me wait for another implementation.

--Max

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
Behalf Of Peter Watkins
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:45 AM
To: Lachlan Hardy
Cc: general at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID] A selector for OpenID

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 01:10:46PM +1000, Lachlan Hardy wrote:
> Very cool, Brian! As I've just spent a week working on a very similar
> interface for one specific project, I'm very impressed that you've
brought
> out a generic version. (of course, I wish I'd seen this a week ago,
but
> that's my problem).

I've been thinking that something like this was needed, too, though I
had not gotten as far as any coding. We're about to launch some login-
required apps at work, and I like the idea of letting users reuse their
existing accounts -- AOL and Yahoo! are probably quite prevalent (it's
a shame there are no official Gmail and Passport/Hotmail OPs), but I
don't expect users to understand OpenID URLs.

I haven't looked at the guts, but I'd ask that this be designed & 
licensed to allow me to install the JS, images, etc. on my own server 
-- both to eliminate a point of failure and for privacy reasons. As a 
matter of security policy, I don't allow embedding any Javascript that 
I don't control on my login, logout, and other account management pages,
and I try hard not to reference even images on other servers (privacy
reasons).

On a purely aesthetic point, I'd suggest adding another "Sign in" link
in the provider pick list drop down for those providers that require
a specific identity, e.g. add a Sign in link next to the screenname
input when the user chooses AOL/AIM.

And the Help link should display more help on the same page as the
selector.

But this is really quite nice!

-Peter

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