[OpenID] Supporting OpenID

[Will Merydith]

Understood - frankly I'm embarrassed for associating the app engine
with Google "official" support.  I know better.

However in my defense there is nothing on that page to make it plain
(to the average user) that that application is not a Google
application.

I do still sense a bit (or a lot) of PR bagging here on the part of
Microsoft and Google.  Which is a reality I know but still
frustrating.


On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Paul Madsen <paulmadsen at rogers.com> wrote:
> Peter, indeed. Google, through Blogger, already meaningfully supports
>  OpenID as an OP.
>
>  Will's original question was on the provenance of the openid-provider
>  built on Google's app engine.
>
>  I stand by my characterization of that app as 'nothing to do with
>  Google', in the sense of supporting OpenID. That Google supports OpenID
>  elsewhere (in Blogger) is a different matter.
>
>  Regards
>
>  Paul
>
>
>
>  Peter Williams wrote:
>  > Is blogspot google, or not? (irrespetive of any other google-related initiative)
>  >
>  > I honestly care. Corporate endorsement via practice is far more valuable then any amount of pr grade endorsements. For example inkblots was was not the best endosremet via practive microsoft could have made (irrespective of the validity of inspots as a nuveau auth technique).
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Paul Madsen <paulmadsen at rogers.com>
>  > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:45 PM
>  > To: Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>
>  > Cc: general at openid.net <general at openid.net>
>  > Subject: Re: [OpenID] Supporting OpenID
>  >
>  > Peter, please 'opine' further how you think my email was
>  >
>  > a) part of a campaign
>  > b) dubious
>  >
>  > I simply explained to Will the reality of the relationship between
>  > Google and the OpenID provider built on its app engine.
>  >
>  > I am active in Liberty, but not in Sun. Their strategies are their own.
>  >
>  > Regards
>  >
>  > paul
>  >
>  > Peter Williams wrote:
>  >
>  >> I should opine more.
>  >>
>  >> Im currently of the opinion that certain folks aligned with liberty alliance are engaged in a messaging campaign of dubious repute. I was VERY depressed at an rsa conference session by folks from sun, for example. Couched in entirely valid technical analysis were a series of corporate non-endorsement messages (in my view). I'm wizened enough in silicon valley politics to know to contrast the frontroom from the backroom signals.
>  >>
>  >> I was not impressed by sun being just yet another idp (that also ran) vs an rp. Being an idp takes no effort.
>  >>
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: Peter Williams <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>
>  >> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:23 PM
>  >> To: Paul Madsen <paulmadsen at rogers.com>; Will Merydith <will.merydith at gmail.com>
>  >> Cc: general at openid.net <general at openid.net>
>  >> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Supporting OpenID
>  >>
>  >> Why do you say this?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> 2) what you perceive as Google support for OpenID actually has nothing
>  >> to to with Google
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Google may have started as as search engine, but it presented itself (and its subsidiarues) as a manged service provider at the rsa show, like a hundred others vying for control over the cloud.
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