[OpenID] Supporting OpenID

[Paul Madsen]

Hi Will, I'll walk carefully here :-)

My assessment

1) Google's app engine allows applications (unaffiliated with the legal 
entity Google) to leverage Google's user accounts through a Users API
2) One such application is called openid-provider, it uses the above API 
and layers a thin OpenID layer on top
3) the above application is an interesting & cool experiment, the 
purpose of which (I would guess) is to demonstrate the power of the 
underlying app engine
4) when a user authenticates to Google at the request of the 
openid-provider application, Google makes it plain that the application 
is not a Google application.

If somebody else built a WS-Federation shim (or an Infocard server) on 
top of the Google app engine, it would be just as wrong to say " Google 
now supports WS-Federation' or 'Google supports Cardspace'.

paul

p.s. 90% of my online life is on Google servers -  I will rejoice on the 
day when my Gmail becomes an OpenID (as is already the case for my 
blogger id).



Will Merydith wrote:
> Would someone mind pointing me to or forwarding me the discussion that 
> explains "even if built on Google's app engine by a Google employee, 
> this is not Google support for OpenID"?
>
> I'm confused and curious and want to get caught up.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Paul Madsen <paulmadsen at rogers.com 
> <mailto:paulmadsen at rogers.com>> wrote:
>
>     Peter, Will described the error message that
>     http://openid-provider.appspot.com/  displays.
>
>     As has been previously discussed, even if built on Google's app
>     engine by a Google employee, this is not Google support for OpenID.
>
>     paul
>
>
>     Peter Williams wrote:
>
>         Why do you say this?
>
>
>
>         2) what you perceive as Google support for OpenID actually has
>         nothing to to with Google
>
>
>         Google may have started as as search engine, but it presented
>         itself (and its subsidiarues) as a manged service provider at
>         the rsa show, like a hundred others vying for control over the
>         cloud.
>          
>
>
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