[OpenID] [OPenID] OpenID usage figures

[Immad Akhund]

> > ...
> > The only way is if OP released data publicaly, but some may
> > consider it to be a competitively sensitive and not release data.
>
> "The only way" seems a bit quick to conclude ;).


yep, my phrasing was too extreme. There probably are other ways :-)

By the way, wouldn't this be the same game-able data, seeing as
> it's the OP which is the one with highest interest in gaming the
> system?


The vast majority of people go through only a few major OPs if there
information was aggregated together than they wouldn't have much of an
incentive to game also I would trust them more than a system that was
completely open to anyone.

If the OP and RP both ping, it's easy for server to collate and
> remove suspect pings. (An OP being its own RP is a special case
> which we might have to skip for simplicity.)


Gets a bit complicated, and an independent trusted body would have to
implement such a system to get over the privacy issues. Also making it part
of the OpenID spec seems bad.

> A body like the OpenID foundation could receive monthly data
> > from the large OP which it then anonymizes and aggregates for
> > us.
>
> Anonymous by choice, perhaps? Several OPs have self-published
> usage numbers for a long time.


I am just thinking of how a scalable system could be built. I don't think
asking all OPs to openly publish this data would be something they would do
in the long run. Of course it would always be a matter of choice.

Can anyone think of analogies to this in other decentralized system? I guess
alexa/compete are analogies to trying to understand usage in a decentralized
system, so perhaps a perfect solution doesn't exist. Maybe in the future
there will be a business in predicting OpenID usage data :-).

Immad

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