[OpenID] Reconsidering http://openid different from https://openid

Joseph Holsten joseph at josephholsten.com
Wed Sep 19 20:10:53 UTC 2007


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On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:

> I postulate that:
>
>  - 99% of internet users have only a very vague idea about the  
> difference between http and https, in particular as it relates to  
> OpenID. And in particular as so many RP's don't print the "http[s]"  
> prefix when they print a user name!
>
>  - almost 100% of internet users won't understand that an RP might  
> choose to make http://foo and https://foo a different account. (I  
> have some evidence that at least 90% of a representative sample of  
> leading identity technologists don't understand it)
>
> I would also guess that a (human-level) impersonation attack by  
> http://foo against https://foo will almost always been successful -  
> e.g. because so many RPs don't print the protocol prefix.
>
> Would anybody on this thread disagree with these assumptions?
Yes. I know people who are convinced that <http://openid.example> and  
<http://openid.example/> are different. True, they don't understand  
why, but that's not the point.

Tell them what their identifier is and use it.

Or stop calling it http and https and just say <openid://me.example>

http:// Joseph Holsten.com
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