[OpenID] A little crypto-politics: crypto anarchism, VeriSign OpenID, OpenID brand meaning

[Peter Williams]

I much prefer email. Its so fair.

Someone whined in private that s/he preferred me to email less, blog more. As openid is very much about blogging right now, it was a reasonable gamble.

I knew it would cause inter culture friction. Identity is very much about audit, archives and everlasting accountability (even tho I know nothing about identity and only security -:) ). 

Both comments address that:  we want a single thread of archive.

I cannot satisfy both sets of requirements. 1. Blog (dont email) generally. 2. Only email (dont blog) generally.





-----Original Message-----
From: "Dick Hardt" <dick at sxip.com>
To: "Peter Williams" <pwilliams at rapattoni.com>
Cc: "general at openid.net" <general at openid.net>
Sent: 9/8/07 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OpenID] A little crypto-politics: crypto anarchism, VeriSign OpenID, OpenID brand meaning

Posting on a blog makes it hard for others to have a dialog on the  
mailing list.

The design goals in OpenID were to minimize what an RP had to do to  
implement OpenID.

Libraries for public key are not widely available for all the popular  
web platforms, so a different message verification method was needed.

not sure if that is the point of your message -- but anarchism was  
not the goal, low barriers to entry was.

-- Dick

On 8-Sep-07, at 12:46 PM, Peter Williams wrote:

> http://yorkporc.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5061D4609325B60!152.entry
>
>> In version 1.1 of OpenID, which is what is widely deployed today, the
>> OP
>> wasn't actually ever sent the claimed_id. The thinking behind this  
>> was
>> that OPs would then be unable to "tell" that they are being delegated
>> to, and thus can't make delegation a premium service or whatever.
>
> This comment from a related thread strongly suggests that there was an
> explicit design intent to create a bias against certain
> commercialization practices.
>
> Following up someone's private whine, I moved the rest of the email  
> to a
> blog entry, as cited earlier. I'm slowly changing my personal behavior
> to see if I even can leverage blogging.
>
> So here goes. Let me know by email here which community customs I've
> broken, even when communicating via a private blog. No doubt there  
> will
> be many rule infractions, initially.
>
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