[OpenID] What are openids weaknesses?

[Gerald Beuchelt]

Peter Williams wrote:
>> For me at least, that's not the point. The point is: what can we do to
>> make it better? (without changing the low-cost economics)
>>     
>
> [Peter Williams] I want to see a plan for OpenID to "harmonize" its
> position with the SAML and the Liberty world, by cooperating with wider
> programs of activity. This means changing the marketing messaging of the
> Foundation and advocating practical integration activities that take
> into consideration that it's a multi-protocol world out there. 
>   
As Johannes has already pointed out, Concordia was created precisely to 
accomplish this goal. Within that group, there is a fairly significant 
number of technology *users* present. From my perspective, this is 
crucially important, since this allows the creation of use-cases that 
are driven by business needs and not by developers. So far, such an 
emphasis has been missing in a lot of the OpenID discussions. IMHO, this 
is one of the reasons why OpenID has - so far - no significant success 
beyond the blogging world.

It is my understanding that the OSIS chairs have reached out to Project 
Concordia to start a dialog and develop a plan to work with Concordia, 
so that OSIS can benefit from such use-cases.

> If we don't do this, the large potential relying-party adopters are just
> left scratching their heads about OpenID, and will *do* nothing.
>   
Yup.
>
>
> [Peter Williams] I've seen two groups offer olive branches. And neither
> has been taken up, from what I can tell. OpenID simply has to be more
> than a protocol spec. OpenID has to be a part of wider movements that
> give it meaning beyond the next year. This means we have to have
> liaisons to connect up with the wider world of WebSSO.
>   
Could not agree more.

Gerry
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