[OpenID] Changes to the website coming soon ...

[David Recordon]

On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Scott Kveton wrote:

> Hey David,
>
>> I still have the question of why not MovableType 4 since it  
>> supports OpenID
>> within the core?  Wordpress has OpenID support as a plugin, so  
>> despite the
>> fact that I do work for Six Apart, I feel that we as a community  
>> should be
>> supporting the technologies and products which support us.
>> (http://www.movabletype.com/blog/2007/09/openid-built-in-with- 
>> mt4.html)
>
> The same could be said for Drupal, Joomla, etc.

I would make the same argument that we should support Drupal, Joomla,  
etc over a product which does not support OpenID.

>
>>  If there are any doubts in terms of if MovableType can do this, one
>> installation runs http://movabletype.org/ and http:// 
>> movabletype.com/.  Take
>> a look at the following posts as well:
>
> Honestly, I can't speak for MovableType but I know I'm going to be one
> of the people maintaining this ... I know WordPress and am comfortable
> with it in this environment ... sounds like you know MovableType
> pretty well so we could/would have our bases covered there.

Yeah, I don't think maintenance in either case is much different.

>
> The Vidoop folks appear to be pretty far along with the WordPress
> theme as well as the accompanying PHP scripts to drive some of the
> forms for getting an OpenID, etc.  We're pretty far along here I think
> and switching gears this late in the game (when we have 3 days)
> doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  I just want this done.

Agreed, I want this done too.

I don't see a reason why MovableType would prohibit the PHP scripts  
they've been developing.  MT supports both static and dynamic  
publishing of templates.  With static publishing we can make MT  
publish the files directly as ".php" (or any other language we'd  
like) and use MT in that situation to manage the PHP source files.   
This still allows MT to automatically include the traditional  
template header, footer, sidebar, etc when statically publishing the  
file.  When working with dynamic publishing, MT actually use the PHP  
engine to render the pages.  This allows us to easily include  
snippets of raw PHP within our templates.  MT then allows us to  
choose static vs dynamic on a per-template basis.  http:// 
www.sixapart.com/about/news/index is an example of dynamic publishing  
where we pull out excerpts of each post and add email, subscribe,  
Digg links.

>
> What language is MovableType in?  I also like the idea of PHP for the
> CMS (WordPress) and PHP for the wiki (MediaWiki) ... keeps things
> pretty simple for us from an upgrade/management perspective.

It is Debian, "apt-get upgrade" ;) :)

>
>>  If the issue is unfamiliarity, that is something that should be  
>> easy to
>> resolve since I do work at Six Apart. :)
>
> Oh, and I don't think you get a say in this because you stuck us with
> BML for so stinkin' long ... haha ... :-)  I kid, I kid ... :-)

har har har :-)

--David

>
> - Scott
>