[OpenID] Website Being Updated Today

Mon Oct 15 12:40:59 PDT 2007

Hi David,

Sorry for the horrendously delayed response.... I've been in development 
mode the last few days....

I have to admit I have no opinion what so ever on directory services. I 
think as things mature the "large" providers will simply opt for Google 
adverts etc to "catch" anyone seeking an OP.

I did some small usability testing on the site this weekend. The site is 
easy to use except for when folk got to http://wiki.openid.net/Libraries 
then they were not able to get back to the main page (the "main page" 
button does not seem to go to the home or developers home page).

http://wiki.openid.net/Libraries - There is some nice "artwork" either 
side of the "search" text on the button;)

http://openid.net/get/ - http://openid.net/developers/ : You've used the 
terminology "on the wiki" and I've only seen it as "in the wiki". I 
think you put X on a wiki page and Y in a wiki, but after 2 hours of 
research I still cannot confirm that.

.. now where did you want me to deposit the bribe to get Barnraiser 
listed on the PHP sw/libraries list? ;)

Tom

David Recordon wrote:
>
>> [http://openid.net/get/] " Well known and simple providers" - I think 
>> it highly dubious as to whether  these providers even meet W3C web 
>> standards including conformance level Double-A 
>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG1AA-Conformance> of the W3C Web Content 
>> Accessibility Guidelines, hence I would hardly label them as 
>> "simple". I do not think it is the role of the OpenID foundation to 
>> define which providers are simple and which simple and not hence I 
>> would go for "Examples of OpenID service providers"
>
> This is probably going to be the most contentious part of the entire 
> site.  Just to be clear though, this is still the community's site not 
> the Foundation's.  The Foundation is becoming an increasingly 
> important part of the community, but for example the Foundation isn't 
> going to do something like "you have to be a member to be listed on 
> the site" or something crazy like that.
>
> The main driver of adding this page was that there was a lot of 
> spot-on criticism 
> (http://miksovsky.blogs.com/flowstate/2007/08/openid-great-id.html) 
> saying how hard it was for someone new to get an OpenID.  We struggled 
> with trying to find the balance between a completely free for all list 
> (http://wiki.openid.net/OpenIDServers) which the page still links to 
> and the other end of the spectrum of sending the user to a random 
> provider from a shorter list.  I don't think that what we have today 
> is perfect, which we say on the site "we realize this list isn’t 
> perfect", but it is a great step forward.  Generally we went for "Well 
> Known" trying to use the litmus test of would someone who has paid 
> some attention to OpenID this year heard of these providers.  "Simple" 
> is much more subjective, but generally looking for users being able to 
> quickly find out how to get an OpenID, how to start using it, and not 
> being required to download, install, be SMS'd, etc before they can 
> start using their OpenID.
>
> What I'd really like to see us move to (assuming the community thinks 
> it would be worthwhile) is a directory of providers.  Then annotate 
> each provider by things such as OpenID specs supported, languages, 
> authentication options, price, etc.  Then when a user comes we can 
> better tailor the presented list to what they're looking for.  Any PHP 
> developer interested in writing something like this?
>
>> The search feels a little strange. I searched on "Identity" and 
>> returned null even though I see the word in the list.
>
> I'm not a WordPress expert, looks like it might only be search blog 
> posts. :-\  Anyone know how to change this?
>
>> At the base of the page I would have put an "s" on "Developer 
>> <http://openid.net/developers/>" to be "Developers" (in the base menu 
>> header).
>
> "s" added.
>
>> OSCON. Even though it was back in 2005 it is still highly relevant. 
>> The (maybe) vidoop (??) video posted here a couple of weeks ago was 
>> great as well. Either way I think a simple tutorial using an OpenID 
>> to connect to a site and post a coment would be the icing on the cake 
>> so to speak.
>
> Yeah, one of the open notes is figuring out how to better link to 
> presentations, tutorials, etc.  We need to better build out the "Dive 
> into OpenID" section on http://openid.net/developers/ though for 
> presentations we link to SlideShare from http://openid.net/discuss/ 
> where most people upload OpenID presentations anyway.
>
>> [Site title] OpenID > how do I get an OpenID .... I think this may 
>> get lost in the Google haze as tutorials get added to the web. 
>> Personally I would have gone for something more like "OpenID.net; 
>> home of OpenID, the specifications and the OpenID foundation".
>
> Yeah, I always thought the title of just "OpenID" was too bland 
> compared to the old title.  Other thoughts/suggestions?
>
>> [http://openid.net/foundation/] I can't see the foundations 
>> registration number. We'll be wanting to see the articles of 
>> association / statutes and validate you against your registration 
>> number before our Non for profit gives you $100; and don't you want 
>> my email or OpenID when I sign up or are we really going to be snail 
>> mail members?? ;)
>
> Also a part of the site which needs to be built out more!
>
>> Hope that helps,
>> tom
>
> It definitely does!
>
> Thanks,
> --David
>
>
>
>> David Recordon wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>> New website is live!
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:32 AM, David Recordon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> Just a reminder that Scott and I are out in the wonderful city of  
>>>> Tulsa, OK at Vidoop's offices working to upgrade the website.   
>>>> Pretty soon we'll put up a "maintenance" page so expect the site 
>>>> to  be down a bit of today.
>>>>
>>>> Screenshot of the new front-page attached, though as you can tell  
>>>> content is still a word in progress!
>>>>
>>>> Cool? Cool!
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Tom Calthrop
>> Founder, Barnraiser.
>>
>> Dedicated to giving people the tools they need to share knowledge and 
>> advance society through social software.
>>
>> Web site: http://www.barnraiser.org/
>> OpenID: http://tom.calthrop.info/
>>
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