[OpenID] Website Being Updated Today

Mon Oct 8 22:10:44 PDT 2007

Hey Tom,
Thanks for the feedback!

> I could not see any obvious place to find out where to get free  
> software that supports OpenID. People like me spend over 12 hours  
> per day developing free software around OpenID so I guess i'm bias,  
> but it would be cool to see free software projects elevated a bit;)

Yeah, that is definitely missing.  Would it fit on the "For  
Developers" page?  Basically create a section along the lines of  
"Software with OpenID" and link to open source which ships OpenID code?

> [Home page] I'm not 100% sure but I'm sure "internet" should always  
> be spelt with a capital I as "Internet".

Thanks, fixed.

> [http://openid.net/get/] " Well known and simple providers" - I  
> think it highly dubious as to whether  these providers even meet  
> W3C web standards including conformance level Double-A <http:// 
> www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG1AA-Conformance> of the W3C Web Content  
> Accessibility Guidelines, hence I would hardly label them as  
> "simple". I do not think it is the role of the OpenID foundation to  
> define which providers are simple and which simple and not hence I  
> would go for "Examples of OpenID service providers"

This is probably going to be the most contentious part of the entire  
site.  Just to be clear though, this is still the community's site  
not the Foundation's.  The Foundation is becoming an increasingly  
important part of the community, but for example the Foundation isn't  
going to do something like "you have to be a member to be listed on  
the site" or something crazy like that.

The main driver of adding this page was that there was a lot of spot- 
on criticism (http://miksovsky.blogs.com/flowstate/2007/08/openid- 
great-id.html) saying how hard it was for someone new to get an  
OpenID.  We struggled with trying to find the balance between a  
completely free for all list (http://wiki.openid.net/OpenIDServers)  
which the page still links to and the other end of the spectrum of  
sending the user to a random provider from a shorter list.  I don't  
think that what we have today is perfect, which we say on the site  
"we realize this list isn’t perfect", but it is a great step  
forward.  Generally we went for "Well Known" trying to use the litmus  
test of would someone who has paid some attention to OpenID this year  
heard of these providers.  "Simple" is much more subjective, but  
generally looking for users being able to quickly find out how to get  
an OpenID, how to start using it, and not being required to download,  
install, be SMS'd, etc before they can start using their OpenID.

What I'd really like to see us move to (assuming the community thinks  
it would be worthwhile) is a directory of providers.  Then annotate  
each provider by things such as OpenID specs supported, languages,  
authentication options, price, etc.  Then when a user comes we can  
better tailor the presented list to what they're looking for.  Any  
PHP developer interested in writing something like this?

> The search feels a little strange. I searched on "Identity" and  
> returned null even though I see the word in the list.

I'm not a WordPress expert, looks like it might only be search blog  
posts. :-\  Anyone know how to change this?

> At the base of the page I would have put an "s" on "Developer  
> <http://openid.net/developers/>" to be "Developers" (in the base  
> menu header).

"s" added.

> OSCON. Even though it was back in 2005 it is still highly relevant.  
> The (maybe) vidoop (??) video posted here a couple of weeks ago was  
> great as well. Either way I think a simple tutorial using an OpenID  
> to connect to a site and post a coment would be the icing on the  
> cake so to speak.

Yeah, one of the open notes is figuring out how to better link to  
presentations, tutorials, etc.  We need to better build out the "Dive  
into OpenID" section on http://openid.net/developers/ though for  
presentations we link to SlideShare from http://openid.net/discuss/  
where most people upload OpenID presentations anyway.

> [Site title] OpenID > how do I get an OpenID .... I think this may  
> get lost in the Google haze as tutorials get added to the web.  
> Personally I would have gone for something more like "OpenID.net;  
> home of OpenID, the specifications and the OpenID foundation".

Yeah, I always thought the title of just "OpenID" was too bland  
compared to the old title.  Other thoughts/suggestions?

> [http://openid.net/foundation/] I can't see the foundations  
> registration number. We'll be wanting to see the articles of  
> association / statutes and validate you against your registration  
> number before our Non for profit gives you $100; and don't you want  
> my email or OpenID when I sign up or are we really going to be  
> snail mail members?? ;)

Also a part of the site which needs to be built out more!

> Hope that helps,
> tom

It definitely does!

Thanks,
--David

> David Recordon wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> New website is live!
>>
>> --David
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:32 AM, David Recordon wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> Just a reminder that Scott and I are out in the wonderful city  
>>> of  Tulsa, OK at Vidoop's offices working to upgrade the  
>>> website.   Pretty soon we'll put up a "maintenance" page so  
>>> expect the site to  be down a bit of today.
>>>
>>> Screenshot of the new front-page attached, though as you can  
>>> tell  content is still a word in progress!
>>>
>>> Cool? Cool!
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
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>>>
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