[OpenID] Recycling OpenIDs (Was: What's broken in OpenID 2.0?(IIW session))

[Chasen, Les]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick at sxip.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:45 PM
> To: Chasen, Les
> Cc: rajeev; general at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Recycling OpenIDs (Was: What's broken in OpenID
> 2.0?(IIW session))
> 
> 
> On 13-May-07, at 8:06 PM, Chasen, Les wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: general-bounces at openid.net
[mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]
> > On
> >> Behalf Of Dick Hardt
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:22 PM
> >> To: rajeev
> >> Cc: general at openid.net
> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID] Recycling OpenIDs (Was: What's broken in
OpenID
> >> 2.0?(IIW session))
> >>
> >>
> >
> > [Chasen, Les] SNIP .....
> >
> >>
> >> XRI does have something to offer, but also has what I consider a
> >> number of disadvantages:
> >>
> >> + I can click on a URL in a browser and it opens a web page. I
can't
> >> do that with an XRI today.
> > [Chasen, Les] Not true.  XRIs are URIs.
> 
> URLs are URIs. Not all URIs are URLs.
> 
> > Yes you need to be able to
> > resolve them and there are not many resovlers deployed yet.  You
> > can use
> > the global proxy resolver at xri.net.  http://xri.net/=les is a
> > perfectly clickable xri.  Local resolvers are beginning to pop up
> > using
> > the openXRI code base.  Openid4java is a nice example.  There is
> > also a
> > firefox plugin written by http://xri.net/=wil.
> 
> Your kidding me with this argument that XRIs are clickable right?
[Chasen, Les] Nope

> 
> >
> >>
> >> + I-names introduce a brand new directory and infrastructure.
> > [Chasen, Les] Yes that is true but some would say that a dedicated
> > identity layer is worth it.
> 
> I guess we will see.
> 
> >
> >>
> >> + how you prove that *you* are the one that controls the i-number
is
> >> a critical point of failure
> > [Chasen, Les] How so?  How do you prove you are the owner of a URL?
> 
> Your not answering my question.
[Chasen, Les] I would if I understood it.

> 
> >
> >>
> >> I am reluctant to point out the issues with XRIs. I am biased
against
> >> them and don't think they add much vale, *but* I am willing to let
> >> the market decide and be proven wrong. Per my proposal, I think we
> >> can provide similar value with URLs.
> > [Chasen, Les] Reluctant to a point :)  Yes the market will decide.
> 
> Yep.