[OpenID] The "keep context" problem

Johannes Ernst jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us
Fri Jun 15 00:11:04 UTC 2007


I have an additional complaint: the number of clicks in this scenario  
is simply way too many, in particular if I have been at that WIki  
before and authenticated before.

(I think your comments, as are mine, are largely directed towards the  
MediaWiki / OpenID integration that runs on OpenID.net. One can do it  
differently, as many other sites have done, including our own  
MediaWiki integration where context is always preserved.)


On Jun 14, 2007, at 14:16, =drummond.reed wrote:

> Has anyone else had this same experience?
>
> 1) You follow a link or navigate to a page on an OpenID-enabled  
> wiki page
> that you realize you need to edit.
>
> 2) You click the Edit button/tab/link and it presents an OpenID  
> login box
> saying you have to login first.
>
> 3) You enter your OpenID and successfully authenticate via your OP.
>
> 4) The site returns a vanilla "login successful" page with a big  
> smiley face
> saying welcome to the site!
>
> But you're not wearing a big smiley face because your original  
> context is
> completely lost. The "convenience" of being able to use an OpenID  
> login
> means you now have to go back to the home page of the site and  
> navigate back
> to the page you want to edit -- which you may not even know if you  
> followed
> an external link to that page!
>
> More than once this has made me think, "Hmmm. If I'd just used my  
> Firefox
> password manager, the site would have remembered my context before  
> I had to
> login and I wouldn't have to find the page I need all over again."
>
> Not good for OpenID.
>
> So, two questions:
>
> 1) Does the OpenID authentication protocol have a way for the RP to  
> keep
> context after the authentication?
>
> 2) If so, why aren't RPs using it? (I have yet to use an OpenID- 
> enabled wiki
> that kept your context pre- and post-login.)
>
> =Drummond
>
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