[OpenID] Recycling OpenIDs (Was: What's broken in OpenID 2.0?(IIW session))

[Recordon, David]

My email client isn't great, so not sure if Stuart replied, but the most
common one in my head is allowing a user to type "aol.com" at a Relying
Party versus having to know their actual OpenID.

--David

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
Behalf Of Chris Drake
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:33 AM
To: Stuart Bishop
Cc: general at openid.net
Subject: Re: [OpenID] Recycling OpenIDs (Was: What's broken in OpenID
2.0?(IIW session))

Hi Stuart,

SB> OpenID 1.1 with directed identity fulfils all of our existing use
cases.

Can you give us an idea of what these use cases are?

Kind Regards,
Chris Drake


Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 5:03:53 PM, you wrote:

SB> Drummond Reed wrote:

>> Martin: your concerns are well stated. Let me add some perspective
from the
>> "XRI side" (for those new to the list, I'm co-chair along with Gabe
Wachob
>> of the OASIS XRI TC, and also a board member of the OpenID
Foundation, so I
>> care very much about the interrelationship of the two technologies).
>> 
>> First, I agree that recent discussions of all the things XRI
architecture
>> "could do" haven't helped clarify what problems it can and can't help
OpenID
>> with today. From my perspective, here's what XRI 2.0 can do for
OpenID 2.0
>> today:

SB> My primary concern is not so much the technical side of what XRI is
capable
SB> of, but what niche it fills and what value it adds for my users?
>From my
SB> perspective, it seems that XRI support would detract value:

SB>  - Only a tiny minority of our users will own or want to own a name.
Domain
SB>    names are cheaper and gives them more value since they can then
host web
SB>    pages and email addresses on 'their' domain rather which they see
as
SB>    an improvement over hotmail, geocities, gmail et. al. And only a
SB>    minority of users have their own domain names, so what hope has
XRI of
SB>    becoming pervasive?

SB>  - Supporting this minority, even if the OpenID libraries do all the
SB>    technical work for me, still involves complicating documentation,
faqs
SB>    and login screens which detracts usability from the vast majority
of our
SB>    users.

SB> OpenID 1.1 with directed identity fulfils all of our existing use
cases. If
SB> OpenID 2.0 comes out and detracts from our user experience, even if
it just
SB> involves making our login screen more verbose, I would have a hard
time
SB> selling the upgrade to our UI guys or the bean counters even if I
wanted to.
SB> If, as a *user* of the libraries, it is all under the hood and just
adds
SB> more power, great.




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