[OpenID] Teenagers do not need OpenID

Paul Madsen paulmadsen at rogers.com
Sat Jan 27 13:30:42 UTC 2007

Hi Scott, I think you are missing Dave's concern.

Your contacts , as a slice of your identity, are special - there are two 
users in the relationship who will have an opinion on moving your data 
from LinkedIn to Orkut, you and your contacts.

In this case, simply making things easier, without ensuring there are 
sufficient controls for both users to consent and control, is not a step 



Scott Kveton wrote:
>>> +1 ... Its fascinating that someone in the identity community can be so
>>> missing the reality of the situation.  Millions upon millions of users on
>>> MySpace, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc share their data in little closed silos
>>> already.  Why not help these users do it in a fashion that gives them more
>>> control and leverages web "standards"?
>> You're missing the point I'm making Scott. Yes, I have an account with
>> LinkedIn and you can list all of my contacts - all of whom are also members
>> of LI as has to be the prerson doing the looking. But if I now open an
>> account with Orkut are you really thinking that it's right that I bring over
>> all of my contacts and their data to the new site? How is that privacy
>> enabling? How is that user friendly? How is that in keeping with the 7
>> Laws??
> If I make my contacts public (which I do on LinkedIn) I would _love_ to be
> able to take that list with me to a photo/video sharing site, blog or wiki.
> Especially if its done using a defacto standard akin to XFN or FOAF to do
> so.
> Its user friendly because you're making the life of users easier by doing
> this.  Privacy is a voluntary affair; if I don't want my contacts public, I
> don't have public contacts.
> And since when were we in the law enforcement business on this list?  Are
> you saying we should _dictate_ how users use the Internet?
> Dave, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree here.  I understand
> that _you_ would not want these things.  Personally, I'd prefer to make
> users' existing lives easier with open technologies.
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