[OpenID] a truly OPEN process and policy for OpenID IPR

Hans Granqvist hans at granqvist.com
Mon Dec 3 09:53:02 UTC 2007


> ...
> Patents (Goal 3 elaboration)

Did IBM handle most (or some) of your outlined cases with the
Common Public License (CPL) <http://opensource.org/licenses/cpl1.0.php>?

Can CPL be used for OpenID at all?


> ...
> Keeping OpenID OPEN (Goal 4 elaboration)

You make some interesting arguments.

I think a comparison with WS-Security (WSS) is proper. WSS is sort of
in the same space as OpenID: securing messages between multiple
parties.

I think everyone agrees WSS is a non-trivial standard with quite complex
dependencies (SOAP and XML signatures/encryption anyone?)

Yet, WSS went thru a major rev in an OASIS committee that had several
dozens of technically and politically savvy corporations in 22 months.  I
think OpenID 2.0 is counting 19 now, and that for a much smaller delta
than WSS's rev.

You posit that openness is great and how important it is that OpenID
is open for everyone, but maybe the OpenID spec work is *too open*?
Maybe the openness -- this ability for anyone to join in --  slows down the
progress?

(I also think it's not correct to equate openness for source and openness
for spec work -- it's much easier to verify correctness in code changes
than it is in spec changes, but that's a different email.)

Maybe a specification *needs* to be either developed in-house (like SSL)
or in a standards body -- are there good examples of specs developed
the current 'OpenID way'?


Hans



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