[OpenID] Anti-OpenID Campaign in Germany

[Mark Cross]

Dear Johannes,

hmm and I have it good authority from a friend of mine that the Tor 
project is already compromised from a security services point of view

http://tor.eff.org/

So if OpenID scares people - I suspect probably everything does!

Just my 2 cents worth

Mark


Johannes Ernst wrote:
> There are some serious political plans in Germany to *require* each  
> ISP to store
>   - browsing history of their customers
>   - e-mail history
> for 6 months, starting in 2008.
>
> http://www.n-tv.de/794665.html for the German speakers.
>
> Whatever data OpenID might be leaking is dwarfed by this ... and  
> whatever we might be able to do technically in an OpenID context is  
> completely moot if this legal initiative passes.
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:24, Lukas Rosenstock wrote:
>
>   
>> Am 25.04.2007, 11:07 Uhr, schrieb Recordon, David  
>> <drecordon at verisign.com>:
>>
>>     
>>> Seems there are some campaigns
>>> (http://www.deltalima2.de/aktion-openid-nein-danke --
>>> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F% 
>>> 2Fwww.deltalima2.de%2
>>> Faktion-openid-nein-danke&langpair=de% 
>>> 7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=
>>> %2Flanguage_tools) against OpenID in parts of Europe which I think we
>>> need to take a look at.
>>>       
>> As a native German speaker, I have looked at this campaign (it's  
>> only one,
>> not "some") and also the reactions, for example the discussion at
>> http://openidgermany.de/2007/04/09/openid-nein-danke/.
>> I know that Germans seem to be more critical about new  
>> technologies, they
>> tend to see only the negative side of things rather than the positive
>> aspects. It was sure that, if there was major protest against  
>> OpenID, it
>> had to be a German who says it!
>> Anyway, that guy who has this blog at deltalima2.de (where he lately
>> posted mainly about privacy and protests against
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention) and  
>> owns
>> openid-neindanke.de (OpenID, no, thanks! - For security and  
>> independence.)
>> seems to be quite alone with his opinions. There are other people who
>> criticize OpenID - which is nothing bad, it has its problems - but  
>> from a
>> neutral point of view, discussing both sides. He accuses "us" to  
>> ignore or
>> play down the negative sides, but he does the same with the  
>> positive sides.
>> People from the German OpenID community deal with him already, e.g. in
>> this blog posting on openidgermany.de and he said another OpenID  
>> provider
>> already contacted him, so I wouldn't worry too much. However, we  
>> should
>> still work on communicating the advantages of OpenID, especially  
>> what it
>> can do for privacy, and for the future try to make OpenID better.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Lukas Rosenstock
>> Identity 2.0 Europe :: http://identity20.eu/
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