[OpenID] Profile image sizes

[Chris Messina]

I've now posted my thoughts on this:

http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2007/04/21/raising-the-standard-for-avatars/

;)

Chris

On 4/21/07, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was excited about Pavatar when it first came out, but have quickly
> moved against it. Adding more data that should be visible data to the
> head of a document is not a wise solution, nor is inventing a new term
> like "pavatar" OR picking arbitrary image dimensions for no apparent
> reason.
>
> SO, here's what I recommend:
>
> * Inherit as much as you can from the vcard standard. It's already
> been figured out, and with hcard, has been converted to an
> HTML-format.
> * Push a naming convention like http://tld.com/avatar.jpg just like
> http://tld.com/favicon.ico is the standard for Favicons.
> * DO look for images with class="photo" within an hcard for the
> location of the avatar:
>
> http://factoryjoe.com/hcard.html
>
> * DO allow for larger sizes than 80x80. That size is practically an
> allowable square of dead pixels on 30" screens.
> * I would much prefer that we push for a standard on the order of
> 256px or 512px (the size of Leopard icons). If you think of the
> standard that you're talking about becoming as ubiquitous as the
> Favicon, you should choose the design pattern you promote wisely. It's
> about time we had higher fidelity avatars -- with the possibility of
> doing server-side transformations to various sizes in between for
> different purposes:
>
> avatar.jpg (original, 512x512)
> avatar_256.jpg
> avatar_128.jpg
> avatar_48.jpg
> avatar_32.jpg
> avatar_16.jpg
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Chris
>
> On 4/20/07, Recordon, David <drecordon at verisign.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like they're trying to work through how to best deal with other
> > sizes.  In any case, I think it would work pretty well for a lot of the
> > use cases where avatar exchange is needed right now.  Certainly not the
> > most robust option, but seems reasonable to support especially once they
> > work out the multi-size issue.
> >
> > --David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: general-bounces at openid.net [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net] On
> > Behalf Of Scott Kveton
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:52 AM
> > To: general at openid.net
> > Subject: Re: [OpenID] Profile image sizes
> >
> > I looked at pavatar when it first came out and forwarded it to some
> > folks ... If you look at the forums there are some discussions about
> > limitations with it and I'm not sure if they ever got worked out.  Not
> > trying to shoot this down, just thought I would mention it ... It is the
> > only decentralized avatar proposal I've seen.
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > Interesting. Yes, very much so.
> > >
> > > They propose : "80x80 px in either PNG, JPG or GIF format" upload and
> > > using |<link rel="pavatar"
> > href="http://example.com/path/my-pavatar.png"
> > > />| to access it.
> > >
> > > We will therefore go with this:
> > >
> > > <link rel="openid.server"
> > > href="http://barnraiser.info/index.php/serve">
> > > <link rel="openid.delegate" href="http://tom.barnraiser.info/">
> > > |<link rel="pavatar"
> > > |href="|http://tom.barnraiser.info/|my-pavatar.png" />|
> > >
> > >
> > > ...unless anyone else know of a better way.
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for the info!
> > >
> > > tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John wrote:
> > >> Something like pavatars? http://www.pavatar.com/
> > >>
> > >> tom wrote:
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>> We are about to add an image upload function to our OpenID server so
> >
> > >>> that we can serve a thumbnail image for adding against a posting.
> > >>> Has there been any discussions on having a standard set of
> > >>> guidelines / recommendations for sizes for thumbnail images (similar
> >
> > >>> to a standard passport sized photo)?
> > >>>
> > >>> Many thanks in advance,
> > >>>
> > >>> tom
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