[OpenID] On the OpenID trademark
Justen Stepka
justen.stepka at gmail.com
Thu Apr 5 12:10:56 UTC 2007
On 4/5/07, Johannes Ernst <jernst+openid.net at netmesh.us> wrote:
>
> On Apr 4, 2007, at 4:45, Rob wrote:
>
> > I think it is good to set standards for entities claiming to use the
> > technologies related to the mark it might even be good to require a
> > standardize way of disclosing what personal info is required to use/
> > create an
> > openid on that site but is there a clear policy about "meta" uses
> > of the mark?
>
> You mean the OpenID provider side of things? Or the Relying Party
> side of things?
>
> > For instance, I am working with some people who would like to
> > create some
> > sites that discuss openid topics, so what is/would be the policy on
> > things
> > like a site named openidtopics.* or is that not even an issue?
>
> You tell me what policy you'd want on this kind of thing, and more
> importantly, what process we should put in place by which policies
> like this get proposed, agreed on, an most importantly revised.
>
> So far, Drummond is in favor of establishing a committee, which was
> one of my suggestions. Anybody else?
>
> > Also, does anyone have a link to some of the original pages where
> > openid was
> > first announced and released, I can't seem to find those.
> > Similarly, if
> > someone has a timeline/outline of milestones in openid's evolution,
> > I would
> > appreciate any links.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
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Is the provider as important as the relying party? Relying parties are going
to use various open-source libraries or other ad-hoc technologies that are
linked together. The relying parties would be difficult to track and
enforce. Plus it seems to go against the idea of the OpenID bounty.
In the end through natural selection there will be a handful of vendors and
popular open-sites (google, livejournal, etc) which most people will
probably end up using for personal use. Commercial products will be easy to
track with the marketing flood that is already starting to come.
It seems most important that because these 'few' sites will be used as
testing by the masses for application integration (don't we want to make
this as simple as possible?), that the providers are more important in terms
of adhering to the spec. If I was to pick an area to enforce this would be
it.
Given all of that -- my opinion is that at this point it's best to make
adoption as simple as possible. If you keep adding in restrictions on
implementation you risk putting out the fire of adoption.
Should there be some type of enforcement, Sun used for Java was the Java
Compatibility Test (http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JCPtools/
) which seems to have worked for them.
Cheers,
Justen
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Justen Stepka
http://www.jstepka.name/blog/
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