off topic - how many people use OpenID ?

Scott Kveton scott at janrain.com
Fri Oct 20 18:21:39 UTC 2006


> The spec work around 2.0 needs to wrap up and be unambiguously easy to
> implement.  It seems that alot of the work done to date has been headed in
> that direction and we should continue to be mindful of this goal.
> 
> Special casing of idP's for example and other items that could add complexity
> would IMO cause adoption to either slow or stall while implementers search for
> the "right path" before investing time and resources given the 100 other
> things they could be working on.

Just to echo Gary's comments above, I agree, we need to get the
specification done.  Developers want this thing to just work out of the box
for them and we have an opportunity to take advantage of the news about
Technorati to get v2.0 out the door.  In the name of getting adoption going,
let's close out v2.0 quickly then we can start in earnest on v2.1 or v3.0.

- Scott



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Drake [mailto:christopher at pobox.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:01 AM
> To: Krall, Gary
> Cc: general at openid.net
> Subject: Re[4]: off topic - how many people use OpenID ?
> 
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> Thanks for your generous sharing of information.  That was
> approximately how many daily users I had estimated for you PIP (which
> I love by the way - awesome interface!)
> 
> You mention that adoption/acceptance requires market players: what do
> you think OpenID 2.0 needs to have in it to help attract these people?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Chris Drake
> 
> 
> Saturday, October 21, 2006, 2:36:07 AM, you wrote:
> 
> KG> Chris:
> 
> KG> We at Verisign also run a OpenID server
> KG> (pip.verisignlabs.com) "and without getting too specific" the
> KG> numbers we see are between 150 and 250 trust requests/day.
> 
> KG> The issue of market adoption and usage clearly centers
> KG> squarely on the number of relying parties who have actually
> KG> implemented the protocol as part of their registration and sign in
> KG> process.  The number of "enabled" users versus the number of
> KG> "actual" users is a function of "where can I use it"?  The more
> KG> relying parties the faster the "enabled" users will become
> KG> "actual" users.
> 
> KG> With the announcement by Symantec/Norton to host their own
> KG> idP (to Hans's comments earlier) and the Technorati announcement
> KG> of today will help drive this process.  Getting major players to
> KG> embrace this technology to become part of the community lexicon is
> KG> the next step in market adoption and acceptance.
> 
> KG> Gary.
> 
> KG> -----Original Message-----
> KG> From: general-bounces at openid.net
> KG> [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]On
> KG> Behalf Of Chris Drake
> KG> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 1:46 AM
> KG> To: Scott Kveton
> KG> Cc: general at openid.net
> KG> Subject: Re[2]: off topic - how many people use OpenID ?
> 
> 
> KG> Hi Scott,
> 
> KG> No - I don't mean how many total users there are of sites that accept
> KG> multiple login systems including OpenID - I mean - how many people
> KG> are out there actually using OpenID *to* log in to sites.
> 
> KG> You guys run myopenid.com don't you?  Did any more than 500 people log
> KG> in to places using this site last week?
> 
> KG> Kind Regards,
> KG> Chris Drake
> 
> 
> KG> Friday, October 20, 2006, 1:46:42 PM, you wrote:
> 
> SK>> Grr ... Meant to send this to the list (sorry for the dupe Chris).
> 
>>>> Digging around, I've discovered there's about 10,000 OpenID URLs
>>>> registered worldwide.  I'd estimate that less than 10% of those are
>>>> active, leaving the total pool of people who use OpenID at around 1000
>>>> users.
>>>> 
>>>> Does this sound ball-park to everyone?  Has anyone got evidence to the
>>>> contrary?
> 
> SK>> I believe every single LiveJournal user (all 10 million) are OpenID
> enabled
> SK>> as well.  So 10,001,000 ... :-)
> 
> SK>> - Scott
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