off topic - how many people use OpenID ?

Krall, Gary gkrall at verisign.com
Fri Oct 20 18:01:52 UTC 2006


Chris:

The spec work around 2.0 needs to wrap up and be unambiguously easy to implement.  It seems that alot of the work done to date has been headed in that direction and we should continue to be mindful of this goal.

Special casing of idP's for example and other items that could add complexity would IMO cause adoption to either slow or stall while implementers search for the "right path" before investing time and resources given the 100 other things they could be working on.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Drake [mailto:christopher at pobox.com]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:01 AM
To: Krall, Gary
Cc: general at openid.net
Subject: Re[4]: off topic - how many people use OpenID ?


Hi Gary,

Thanks for your generous sharing of information.  That was
approximately how many daily users I had estimated for you PIP (which
I love by the way - awesome interface!)

You mention that adoption/acceptance requires market players: what do
you think OpenID 2.0 needs to have in it to help attract these people?

Kind Regards,
Chris Drake


Saturday, October 21, 2006, 2:36:07 AM, you wrote:

KG> Chris:

KG> We at Verisign also run a OpenID server
KG> (pip.verisignlabs.com) "and without getting too specific" the
KG> numbers we see are between 150 and 250 trust requests/day. 

KG> The issue of market adoption and usage clearly centers
KG> squarely on the number of relying parties who have actually
KG> implemented the protocol as part of their registration and sign in
KG> process.  The number of "enabled" users versus the number of
KG> "actual" users is a function of "where can I use it"?  The more
KG> relying parties the faster the "enabled" users will become
KG> "actual" users.

KG> With the announcement by Symantec/Norton to host their own
KG> idP (to Hans's comments earlier) and the Technorati announcement
KG> of today will help drive this process.  Getting major players to
KG> embrace this technology to become part of the community lexicon is
KG> the next step in market adoption and acceptance.

KG> Gary.

KG> -----Original Message-----
KG> From: general-bounces at openid.net
KG> [mailto:general-bounces at openid.net]On
KG> Behalf Of Chris Drake
KG> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 1:46 AM
KG> To: Scott Kveton
KG> Cc: general at openid.net
KG> Subject: Re[2]: off topic - how many people use OpenID ?


KG> Hi Scott,

KG> No - I don't mean how many total users there are of sites that accept
KG> multiple login systems including OpenID - I mean - how many people
KG> are out there actually using OpenID *to* log in to sites.

KG> You guys run myopenid.com don't you?  Did any more than 500 people log
KG> in to places using this site last week?

KG> Kind Regards,
KG> Chris Drake


KG> Friday, October 20, 2006, 1:46:42 PM, you wrote:

SK>> Grr ... Meant to send this to the list (sorry for the dupe Chris).

>>> Digging around, I've discovered there's about 10,000 OpenID URLs
>>> registered worldwide.  I'd estimate that less than 10% of those are
>>> active, leaving the total pool of people who use OpenID at around 1000
>>> users.
>>> 
>>> Does this sound ball-park to everyone?  Has anyone got evidence to the
>>> contrary?

SK>> I believe every single LiveJournal user (all 10 million) are OpenID enabled
SK>> as well.  So 10,001,000 ... :-)

SK>> - Scott

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