Call directed identity "anonymous login"? (was RE: concerns about each user having a unique "URL")

[Saeed El-Darahali]

Hello,

I have been following this topic for a number of days and I believe that
general public will be somewhat confused by using the word "anonymous login"
my reasons are as follows:

1. Under the current implementation of Oid, the request service has access
to the email addresses.
2. Based on the implementation of  the system each party could allow for
sharing of information.

My gut would tell me to use the word Privacy Protect Login (PPL) - OpenID.
these are much stronger words and also allows for emails address to be
excluded because Privacy, IMHO, would mean personal information other than
email addresses.

My 2 cents for today.

S

On 11/11/06, Drummond Reed <drummond.reed at cordance.net> wrote:
>
> I agree with Paul - although I like the technical precision of the term
> "directed identity", it's too esoteric for the general public, who are
> going
> to be very interested in this feature (I already find it's the most
> frequently asked question about OpenID 2.0.)
>
> I started a read-through today of the proposed Draft 11 spec to make
> editorial suggestions (I plan to submit it back to the editors by the end
> of
> the weekend). I find it really does need more a little more explanation of
> this feature. In crafting some suggested text for this, I found myself
> struggling with what to call this feature in terms the general public will
> understand (even though it's a technical spec, the name of this feature
> should IMHO be the same thing we want the general public to call it).
>
> The term Josh uses, "IdP-driven identifier selection", is technically
> accurate, but somewhat like "directed identity", I fear I it will be lost
> on
> the general public.
>
> The best candidate I can think of so far is "anonymous login", because
> that
> seems to go straight to the heart of the benefit to the End User.
>
> Is it strictly anonymous? No, it's pseudononymous. Furthermore, using
> IdP-driven identifier selection, an End User could in fact use this
> feature
> and end up deciding to use one of their public, easily correlatable
> Claimed
> Identifiers. So it's not always strictly pseudononymous either.
>
> But "anonymous login" still seems to be the best name I can think of that
> lets the general public quickly grok the essence of this feature.
>
> Does anyone else have a better suggestion?
>
> =Drummond
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Trevithick [mailto:paul at socialphysics.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:04 AM
> To: 'Josh Hoyt'; 'Drummond Reed'
> Cc: general at openid.net
> Subject: RE: concerns about each user having a unique "URL"
>
> FWIW, I've found that that words like directed and omni-directional are
> confusing to folks. I *think* Kim introduced these words first (not sure),
> but I don't think they work. -Paul
>
> Josh wrote:
> >
> > On 11/9/06, Drummond Reed <drummond.reed at cordance.net> wrote:
> > > I'm surprised the 2.0 spec you cite (draft 10) has no mention of
> > directed
> > > identity
> >
> > I am the one responsible for the term "directed identity" not
> > appearing in the specification.
> > I think "directed identity" is a pretty nebulous term, especially
> > since it includes the word "identity" which is notoriously hard to
> > define.
> >
> > I wrote about the feature that can be used to implement "directed
> > identity", IdP-driven identifier selection. "Directed identity" is an
> > IdP feature that requires IdP-driven identifier selection, but it is
> > not the only thing that is enabled by IdP-driven identifier selection.
> > If you have IdP-driven identifier selection, then (IMO) "directed
> > identity" is easy to envision.
> >
> > Josh
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Saeed El-Darahali
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