[OpenID - Eu] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe

Robert Ott ott at jnet.ch
Wed Dec 2 20:05:50 UTC 2009 

@Steven:
Thanks, Steven, for your input. I agree that it is probably better to have a hand full of active people with clear defined responsibilities to lead OpenID Europe rather than all the current representatives together doing uncoordinated work. However, I think it should still be possible to keep a list of contact people in the corresponding countries. That would help to push information to that countries and visa versa.

@OIDF Board:
- Could somebody organize that I could get write access to openid.net and in which area / subheadings we should organize / transfer the content of openideurope.eu?
- Can you take care to somehow contact Snorri (I heard he is in California) and assure to transfer all his OpenID trademarks, domain-contacts, etc. to OIDF.

@All OpenID Europe:
Who want's to be an 'active' part of OpenID Europe? Please answer directly to me in order that I can convert the feedback in a coordinated proposal to OIDF. Please also include what kind of responsibility 'activity' you propose to take care of.  Activities could for example be:
- Organizing face-to-face meetings 1-2 times a year
- Writing articles to be published to summarize what's going on related to OpenID in Europe. We should aim to have at least one headline a month. 
- and so on... suggestions welcome.

@Current OpenID Representatives of the various countries:
- Please drop me an e-mail with your contact address and state whether or not you are still interested to be a OpenID representative of the corresponding country. Please assure that I get the e-mail by end of 2009. I will then assemble a list of current OpenID contact people in Europe. If you are currently not a representative of a country but what to be a contact person for a country, please also drop me a short message.

Regards

Robert, OpenID Switzerland

 
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> From: "Steven Livingstone-Perez" <weblivz at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OpenID - Eu] Fwd: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID
> 	FoundationEurope
> To: "Nat Sakimura" <sakimura at gmail.com>,	"openid-board"
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> My 2 euros ... I'd like to see the content moved to OpenID.Net and a max group of between 3 to 5 leadership of OpenID Europe. This group of 3 to 5 should have 1/2 on the actual OpenID Foundation board and be part a visible and active part of the development of OpenID. Not necessarily technically as people can do that from anywhere, but providing geo-context is so key to all this.
> 
> There is no need to have 50 European representatives and as i clicked through most of those links  (and there are many) give DNS errors or pages (and people) not found.
> 
> We need a core group to build momentum by allowing people to field questions and so on - as well as build European OpenID related blogs, links and activity.
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> /steven
> http://livz.org
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> From: Nat Sakimura 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:54 PM
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> Subject: [OpenID - Eu] Fwd: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID FoundationEurope
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> Forwarding this message by Robert Ott since it did not seem to get through to the list somehow.  
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> =nat
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> From: Robert Ott <robert.ott at clavid.com>
> Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe
> To: Nat Sakimura <sakimura at gmail.com>, openid-board at lists.openid.net
> Cc: Snorri Giorgetti <snorri.giorgetti at gmail.com>, openid-eu at lists.openid.net
> 
> 
> Hi Nat / OIDF,
> 
> OpenID Europe was mainly managed by Snorri Gioretti. As far as I now, he was/is officially responsible for managing Europe by the OIDF. At least it states so at OIDF => http://openid.net/foundation/leadership/
> 
> In the past, he did take care of registering the OpenID trademark and domains in many European countries  (such as openideurope.eu). He also appointed the representatives for the countries stated at the page http://www.openideurope.eu/team/. That was great work an I really appreciate it.
> 
> End of 2008, Snorri got elected to the OIDF board of directors for a 2 years period in order to represent Europe in OIDF accordingly. Unfortunately, after he got elected, he almost disappeared from OpenID Europe activities. Nobody was officially appointed to take over Snorri's activities. I tried to reach him by E-Mail, Phone, SMS for the last 12 month but unfortunately with no response. Thus, the current situation is that many people (including me) don't know who actually manages OpenID Europe and more importantly, who is the owner of the registered trademarks and the domains such as openideurope.eu? Who has the contact information of all the European representatives? And so on. I thought Snorri donated everything to OIDF but I'm not sure about that.
> 
> Does anybody of the board members have contact with Snorri to clarify responsibilities?
> 
> I could help in bringing the content of openideurope.eu to another site as I do still have read and write access to the WordPress instance (but no admin rights, unfortunately). One place where to move it could be http://openid.net/foundation/chapters/europe/ in order to have it in the hands of OIDF. If I can get write access to openid.net, I could take care of that part.
> 
> I think an important next step should be to appoint somebody from Europe (or a group of people with clear responsibilities) to take over the OpenID Europe activities.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of activities here in Europe regarding OpenID promotion and integration. However, it is probably not widely recognized on the Internet as it just doesn't get published to a wide audience. OIDF could be a great platform to do so. I'm sure we all could do better, so lets restart OpenID Europe!
> 
> But as I mentioned, a first step should be that OIDF clarifies with Snorri the current status and the appoint appropriate people to take over activities.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Robert, OpenID Switzerland
> 
> 
> On 25.11.2009, at 18:06, Nat Sakimura wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>> Any news from your side?
>> 
>> =nat
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Jean-No?l Colin <jn.colin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Henrik
>> 
>> I must admit I do share your concerns about openid europe; I haven't seen much activity around that foundation and was also wondering whether it would be more appropriate to have one single consolidated foundation, rather than maintaining an idle one.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Jean-Noel Colin
>> 
>> On 25 Nov 2009, at 03:06, Henrik Biering wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Snorri,
>>> how are you doing? I have not heard anything from you for quite a long time.
>>> 
>>> Yesterday, I discovered that the openid.dk domain registered by OpenID foundation Europe had expired and had been deactivated.
>>> I have now managed to pay the invoice and get the domain reactivated.
>>> 
>>> However, I wonder about the situation of OpenID Europe Foundation in general. You have done an impressive job of aquiring the European and National Trademarks for OpenID as well as several national OpenID domains on behalf of the EU foundation, and it would be sad to see the result of these efforts vanish.
>>> 
>>> If there are no resources available to maintain OpenID Foundation Europe, maybe it is appropriate to consider how this IPR may be consolidated within the global OpenID Foundation (or alternatively at the national levels).
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Henrik Biering
>>> OpenID-DK representative
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> Hi all!
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>> From: *Robert Ott* <robert.ott at clavid.com <mailto:robert.ott at clavid.com>>
>> Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Status of the OpenID Foundation Europe
>> To: Nat Sakimura <sakimura at gmail.com <mailto:sakimura at gmail.com>>,
>> openid-board at lists.openid.net <mailto:openid-board at lists.openid.net>
>> Cc: Snorri Giorgetti <snorri.giorgetti at gmail.com
>> <mailto:snorri.giorgetti at gmail.com>>, openid-eu at lists.openid.net
>> <mailto:openid-eu at lists.openid.net>
>> 
>> Hi Nat / OIDF,
>> 
>> ....and more importantly, who is the owner of the registered
>> trademarks and the domains such as openideurope.eu
>> <http://openideurope.eu>?
> Nat Sakimura wrote:
>> Yes, let us do. 
>> 
>> ... though, we have to get hold of Snorri anyways to finalize the TM
>> transfer...
> 
> Nat, as for the trademark, there is TRADEMARK ASSIGNMENT, dated 23th of
> June, 2008 with which Snorri assigned TM to OIDE for 1?. Snorri also
> agreed that he'll execute all papers necessary to secure to OIDE the
> rights assigned.
> 
> Right now I am in process of renewing openid.bg domain and the Register
> requests trademark ownership signed letter. I tried to contact Snorri,
> requesting a such document, with no luck.
> 
> Also who is paying for all those domains anyway? I will do it now, sure,
> but still a question.
> 
> I really hope things shall be sorted out sooner.
> 
> Regards,
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>  Zdravko Stoychev
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