[OpenID - Eu] TR: OpenID EU participation to Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG
Snorri
snorri at snorri.eu
Mon Oct 6 13:12:56 UTC 2008
Hi Marc,
Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers (jeroen at synergetics.be) is managing the Building
Trustworthy Architectures Workshop, I'm organising the VRM Workshop.
Jeroen, is there still a slot available?
Cheers,
Davor
Marc Van Coillie wrote:
> Thanks Kick for your proposal.
> A part of it seem more close to the morning workshop meeting "S1.1.D:
> Building Trustworthy Architectures Workshop"
> I put in cc Davor which manage this workshop.
> How much time do you need Kick for this presentation ?
>
> Davor do you have still some presentation slots available for the
> morning workshop on Trust Architecture ?
> It sounds that the proposal of Kick from Diginotar should be better
> place in the morning session.
> http://www.epforum.eu/ep2008/conference/programme/
> What is your own felling (both Davor and Kick) ?
>
> The two last points could also take place in the afternoon session:
> "
>
> - The difference between machine<>machine authentication (WS
> security), the envelope, and the actual content containing the end
> user identity an attributes.
>
> - Attribute sharing within user centric systems, main message:
>
> o The importance of a persistent common unique identifier, which one
> to use and the problems we face in practice. (Do you have one defined
> within your program?)
>
> "
> They could help to open discussion.
>
>
> Regards,
> Marc
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kick Willemse <mailto:K.Willemse at diginotar.nl>
> *To:* 'Marc Van Coillie' <mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org> ;
> 'Chris Obdam' <mailto:chris.obdam at holder.nl>
> *Cc:* Snorri <mailto:snorri at snorri.eu>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2008 12:33 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to Identity
> conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG
>
> Marc,
>
>
>
> I just registered for the day.
>
>
>
> I try to be a general expert on user centric identity. I can tell
> something about the openid, but most of the time I look at it from
> a broader spectrum.
>
>
>
> I could give a short presentation about user centric
> authentication within the Netherlands:
>
> - Current status user centric/ Four corner developments
>
> - Perception of openID, Pro’s/Cons of user centric
> authentication:
> http://www.papierloos.nl/digitale-identiteit/why-organisations-should-implement-user-centric-authentication/
>
> - The difference between machine<>machine authentication
> (WS security), the envelope, and the actual content containing the
> end user identity an attributes.
>
> - Attribute sharing within user centric systems, main
> message:
>
> o The importance of a persistent common unique identifier, which
> one to use and the problems we face in practice. (Do you have one
> defined within your program?)
>
>
>
> I could go a little bit into the attribute sharing of openid, but
> I don’t want to get to technical and I think the main issue within
> attribute sharing (SAML, OpenID, Legacy) is the existence of a
> persistent common unique identifier.
>
>
>
> I don’t know if this is to much, fits the workshop contents. Just
> let me know what you think about time and content.
>
>
>
> Could you please send me the other topics to be discussed within
> the workshop?
>
>
>
> Kick
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Kick Willemse
>
> Product Manager
>
> e-mail: k.willemse at diginotar.nl
>
> weblog: http://www.papierloos.nl <http://www.papierloos.nl/>
>
>
>
> DigiNotar B.V.
>
> Vondellaan 8
>
> 1942LJ Beverwijk
>
> telefoon: 0251-268888
>
>
>
>
>
> *Van:* Marc Van Coillie [mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org]
> *Verzonden:* maandag 6 oktober 2008 11:28
> *Aan:* Kick Willemse; 'Chris Obdam'
> *CC:* Snorri
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to Identity
> conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG
>
>
>
> Hi Chris and Kick,
>
> you haven't yet register for your participation to the launch
> meeting of the Liberty HR-EDU SIG included in the ePortfolio and
> Digital Identity conference in Maastricht on 22 October.
>
>
>
> Could you please create your account on the conference management
> system:
>
> https://www.conftool.net/ep2008
>
> We have put in place a specific discount code which will ease the
> registration process and give you directly free access for the
> workshop day on 22:
>
> PaRtNeRTaS3
>
> A quick reminder: one of the main concrete issue for this first
> meeting of the HR-EDU SIG will be to present the Europass HR-XML
> CV, its binding as a new Liberty ID-SIS (with the demo of the
> UniversalCV project) and the discussion on its possible binding
> using the OpenID2 attribute exchange specs.
>
>
>
> If you have any question or any suggestion for presentation during
> this workshop don't hesitate. I guess that a short presentation
> given status of OpenID in NL with a short introduction of the
> OpenID attribute exchange specs should be very interesting for the
> participants.
>
> Here is the conference programme :
> http://www.epforum.eu/conference/programme
>
>
>
> Hope to see you there,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Marc Van Coillie <mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org>
>
> *To:* Kick Willemse <mailto:K.Willemse at diginotar.nl> ; Snorri
> <mailto:snorri at snorri.eu> ; 'Chris Obdam'
> <mailto:chris.obdam at holder.nl>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:30 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to
> Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG HR/EDU SIG
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> perfect, could you please create your account using our
> conference registration system:
>
> https://www.conftool.net/ep2008
>
> And keep me in touch when you have done it, so I will be able
> to add you in the list of free entry for the workshop.
>
> If you wish to attend the rest of the conference (on 23 and
> 24th) and/or the social dinner (on 23), I couldn't
> unfortunately give free access to the whole event so please
> then register first for these additional days using the
> following discount code : SpEaKeReP08
>
>
>
> Kick have you already put in place attribute sharing within
> your system ? If yes could you give me more information (what
> is the data model used, is it using openid or LA ID-WSF ??), I
> could manage the agenda if needed to include a short
> demonstration based on your implementation.
>
>
>
> Hope to see you there.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Kick Willemse <mailto:K.Willemse at diginotar.nl>
>
> *To:* 'Marc Van Coillie'
> <mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org> ; Snorri
> <mailto:snorri at snorri.eu> ; 'Chris Obdam'
> <mailto:chris.obdam at holder.nl>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:00 AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to
> Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG
> HR/EDU SIG
>
>
>
> Marc,
>
>
>
> It is fine with me to join on the 22th of October. I have
> to investigate on the e-portfolio topic.
>
>
>
> Attribute sharing within SAML, OpenID or Liberty I am a
> familiar with, although the main focus within the market
> is on establishing authentication (So only sharing one
> unique identifier)
>
>
>
> @Chris, it would be a nice opportunity to have a chat on
> the current openid developments in the Netherlands. Maybe
> we can drive together to Maastricht.
>
>
>
> Kick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Kick Willemse
>
> Product Manager
>
> e-mail: k.willemse at diginotar.nl
>
> weblog: http://www.papierloos.nl <http://www.papierloos.nl/>
>
>
>
> DigiNotar B.V.
>
> Vondellaan 8
>
> 1942LJ Beverwijk
>
> telefoon: 0251-268888
>
>
>
>
>
> *Van:* Marc Van Coillie [mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org]
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 24 september 2008 21:12
> *Aan:* Snorri; 'Chris Obdam'
> *CC:* Kick Willemse
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to
> Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG
> HR/EDU SIG
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> welcome Kick and Chris,
>
> I guess Kick that I've already spoken with one of your
> Diginotar colleague during the EIC event in Munich last April.
>
>
>
> The main contribution expected for this day (22 October)
> is during the afternoon workshop with the LA HR-EDU SIG.
> My aim is to achieve at least a consensus regarding the
> European CV (Europass promoted by the EU commission and
> their Cedefop agencies). We have already done a draft
> binding using the HR-XML schema and using the Liberty
> ID-WSF layer to exchange applicant data safely from one
> web service to an another.
>
> This is tested in the French 'Universal CV' project
> (http://www.cvuniversel.org/).
>
> We have developped a web service that is able to
> interoperate with other CV formats (such as the Kennisnet
> IMS eP format in NL, the German CV, the iProfile UK (more
> than 2 million CVs in UK), the hResume microformat (used
> by linkedin))
>
> It should be possible to use the same CV XML Binding with
> the OpenID attribute exchange specs in theory, we will be
> quite interested to have your opinion on this topic during
> the day.
>
> The European Europass strategy is also using other model
> in addition to the CV, the diploma supplement (DS - all
> european student citizen is already able to ask to his
> university to deliver it, but it is mainly paper based),
> the certificate supplement (CS - for formal training), the
> Language portfolio (LP - to define our capability
> regarding different EU languages) and the mobility pass
> (MP - linked with Erasmus and other EU mobility programs).
>
> So it should be interesting to discuss also how some of
> these others models could be supported by openID or LA specs.
>
> In Europass, both the CV and the LP are managed directly
> by the EU citizen himself, the others (DS, CS, MP) are
> managed by other institutions but it should be needed that
> the citizen could manage the way that these information
> related to himself are exchanged by different systems.
>
>
>
> Hope this could help to understand better the aim of this
> workshop.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Snorri <mailto:snorri at snorri.eu>
>
> *To:* 'Chris Obdam' <mailto:chris.obdam at holder.nl> ;
> 'Marc Van Coillie' <mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org>
>
> *Cc:* K.Willemse at diginotar.nl
> <mailto:K.Willemse at diginotar.nl>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:35 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation
> to Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty
> SIG HR/EDU SIG
>
>
>
> I add Kick in the loop…
>
> Maybe he can be interested?
>
> Regards
>
> -Snorri
>
>
>
> *De :* Chris Obdam [mailto:chris.obdam at holder.nl]
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 24 septembre 2008 14:01
> *À :* Marc Van Coillie
> *Cc :* Snorri
> *Objet :* Re: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation to
> Identity conference in Maastricht and to Liberty SIG
> HR/EDU SIG
>
>
>
> Marc,
>
>
>
> That shouldn't be a problem. In which way do you want
> me to represent and participate during that day?
>
> I am not that familiar with ProjectLiberty though...
>
>
>
> With regards,
>
>
>
> Chris Obdam
>
>
>
>
>
> Op 24 sep 2008, om 12:45 heeft Marc Van Coillie het
> volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I'm contacting you on behalf of Snorri.
>
> We are organising next October in Maastricht a
> Conference on ePortfolio and Digital Identity.
>
> http://www.epforum.eu/ep2008/conference/programme/
>
> On Wednesday 22nd we will have a full track on
> trusting architecture, identity federation and
> especially with the launch in the afternoon of a new
> Liberty SIG to study identity issues for HR and EDU
> services. Cross interop between OpenID and Liberty is
> also in the concern of this SIG.
>
> http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/HR-EDU_SIG
>
>
>
> Will you be interested to participate to represent
> OpenID during this day ??
>
> As our organisation is both a member of Liberty and
> OpenID Europe and involve in the organisation of the
> whole event it will be more difficult for me to take
> position regarding OpenID specifications.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> Marc Van Coillie
> CTO
> EIfEL http://www.eife-l.org/
> Membership: EFQUEL, Europortfolio, HR-XML (leader of
> Europass WG), IEEE LTSC (RDC WG), Liberty Alliance
> (sponsor member), OpenID Europe
> Expert for the CEN/ISSS WS LT
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Upcoming events:
> International ePortfolio and Digital Identity
> Conference, Maastricht, 22-25th October 2008
> : http://www.epforum.eu/
> eLearning Forum, Paris 19-20th January 2009
> : http://www.ilearningforum.eu/
> Recognition and Accreditation of Competencies Forum,
> Paris 19-20th January 2009 : http://www.racforum.eu/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Snorri <mailto:snorri at snorri.eu>
>
> *To:* 'Marc Van Coillie'
> <mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:05 AM
>
> *Subject:* RE: [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU
> participation à la conf IDentité de Maastricht et
> au SIG RH/EDU avec Liberty.
>
>
>
> Bonjour Marc,
>
> Oui et en ce moment je suis un peu débordé avec ma
> candidature au poste de ED de la fondation US
>
> www.openid2009.org <http://www.openid2009.org>
>
>
>
> Bravo aussi pour ton travail…
>
> Je ne suis pas disponible avant quelques semaines
> (une épaule cassée que je dois reposer)
>
> Essaye de contacter Robert OTT de ma part
> (suisse), si son déplacement peu être
> payé… ? ott at jnet.ch <mailto:ott at jnet.ch>
>
> Ou Chris Obdam qui habite déjà aux
> Pays-Bas chris.obdam at holder.nl
> <mailto:chris.obdam at holder.nl>
>
>
>
> Bien sûr sois libre d’utiliser les logo d’OpenID
> Europe comme tu le souhaites…
>
> Est-ce que ceux sur le site sont suffisant ?
>
>
>
> Bien à toi
>
>
>
> -Snorri
>
>
>
> *De :* Marc Van Coillie
> [mailto:marc.van.coillie at eife-l.org]
> *Envoyé :* mardi 23 septembre 2008 17:41
> *À :* Snorri
> *Objet :* [OpenID - Eu] OpenID EU participation à
> la conf IDentité de Maastricht et au SIG RH/EDU
> avec Liberty.
> *Importance :* Haute
>
>
>
> Bonjour Snorri,
>
> Bravo pour ton travail afin de stabiliser le côté
> légal du chapitre, pas facile...
>
>
>
> De notre côté nous avons avancé pour
> l'organisation de la conférence ePortfolio et
> Identité Numérique à Maastricht, fin Octobre prochain.
>
> Il y aura un track le mercredi 22 sur les
> problématiques de sécurité, de confiance.
>
> http://www.epforum.eu/ep2008/conference/programme/
>
> L'après midi il y aura la première réunion de
> lancement du nouveau SIG HR / EDU avec Liberty
> Alliance.
>
> La participation à ce SIG est ouvert à tous
> (membre ou non gratuitement). Le but est aussi d'y
> étudier l'interop de services RH / EDU (comme le
> support du CV Européen) entre archi Liberty et
> d'autres comme OpenID:
>
> http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/HR-EDU_SIG
>
> Souhaiterais-tu participer comme représentant
> d'OpenID Europe ? (Je peux t'inviter gratuitement
> pour la conf)
>
> Si tu ne peux pas venir à la conf, dis moi si tu
> vois quelqu'un qui pourrait représenter la
> fondation. Et dis moi aussi si tu veux que je
> t'inscrive sur la liste et/ou que je mette le nom
> d'OpenID Europe dans le wiki.
>
>
>
> On avait parlé aussi de la participation/support
> d'OpenID Europe à la conf de Maastricht, est-ce
> toujours possible ?
>
> Si oui y-a-t-il un logo OpenID Europe que l'on
> peut utiliser sur le site pour ajouter OpenID
> Europe comme organisation partenaire ??
>
>
>
> N'hésites pas à m'appeler pour en parler, je suis
> chez moi cette semaine:
>
> Fixe: 0950608801 (ou le 0298678801 si l'autre
> numéro ne passe pas)
>
> Mobile : 0687787617
>
> Skype : marc-eifel
>
>
>
> A bientôt
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Snorri <mailto:snorri at snorri.eu>
>
> *To:* board at openid.net
> <mailto:board at openid.net> ; eu at openid.net
> <mailto:eu at openid.net>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:34 PM
>
> *Subject:* [OpenID - Eu] OpenID Europe
> Recognizes and Accepts the OIDF LocalChapters
> Policy
>
>
>
> Dear Trademark Committee,
>
> Dear Raj, Shreyas, David and Bill,
>
>
>
> On June 23, 2008 I have personally assigned
> all registered OpenID brand names presently
> protected in Europe (in 27 countries) over to
> OIDE, in exchange for the nominal amount of 1€.
>
>
>
> Today, OIDE recognizes OIDF’s Local Chapter
> Policy as one of the “Continental Chapters”
> and joins OIDF to continue to work jointly to
> the global work which remains to be done,
> united in the supreme interest of the Community.
>
>
>
> I am hoping that this new unity of purpose
> will allow us to finalize a Worldwide
> Trademark Policy, using as examples these
> drafts http://wiki.openid2009.org/OpenID_Trademark_Policy ethttp://wiki.openid2009.org/OpenID_Logo_Policy.
>
>
>
> Other questions remain as to the granting of
> licenses to Local Chapters (thank you, David);
> I am referring in first instance to Japan.
> This granting of licenses is currently under
> study, so as to enable us to set up a
> simplified, on line process.
>
>
>
> We are hereby confirming that OIDE, as a
> “Continental Chapter,” agrees to the _OIDF
> Local Chapters Policy_, as approved by the
> OIDF Board on May 8, 2008.
>
>
>
> Here is the information pertaining to our
> “Continental” Chapter:
>
>
>
> a) The organizers are Snorri Giorgetti (Chair)
> and 28
> Representatives http://www.openideurope.eu/team/
>
>
>
> b) The URL of the Foundation
> is http://www.openideurope.eu/
>
>
>
> c) The region is Europe, and it presently
> covers 43 countries
>
>
>
> d) The name of our Foundation is "OpenID
> Europe" (OIDE)
>
>
>
> I have just listed “OpenID Europe” at this
> location: http://openid.net/foundation/chapters/
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> -Snorri
>
>
>
> Copy: Scott, Johannes, Mike, Nat & Mark
>
>
>
>
>
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