[OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement

[Chris Obdam]

David,

I understand the need of testing programs, but it is a very technical  
approach. My grandma won't understand what it's for :-)

The cerfitcation ideas i had was not to have people pay for a place  
on the approved list, but for free if the meet the right standards.
I think both concepts are possible. But i am not into this for  
pushing certification, but to make OpenID bigger and better.

So what makes OpenID bigger and better i am in for it!

Greetings,

Chris


On 3-jun-2007, at 2:00, Recordon, David wrote:

> Chris,
> Don't get me wrong, I think testing programs are really needed!
> Certification, as in paying money and being on an "approved" list, is
> however something I have mixed feelings around.  I think the community
> really needs tools to make sure OpenID implementations are correct and
> interoperate.
>
> --David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eu-bounces at openid.net [mailto:eu-bounces at openid.net] On  
> Behalf Of
> Chris Obdam
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:08 AM
> To: Martin Paljak
> Cc: Snorri; eu at openid.net
> Subject: Re: [OpenID - Eu] Mission Statement
>
> Martin,
>
> I get your point. Seeing the reactions maybe my certification ideas
> are not realistic.
>
> Does anybody see the goodness in the whole 'certification' idea. Or
> to put it in an other way: Providers can only become a member after
> they have passed the test.
> What the test rules are can be defined later..
>
> ?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Chris - OpenID Holland
>
>
> On 1-jun-2007, at 16:30, Martin Paljak wrote:
>
>>
>> On 01.06.2007, at 17:02, Chris Obdam wrote:
>>
>>> I wan't people to know that when a OpenID provider is member of the
>>> OpenID Europe Organisation that that provider is safe.
>>
>> I still don't understand how the safeness of an OpenID provider
>> differs from the safeness of a random websites where you would be
>> using that OpenID. Or what kind of safeness should be assessed ?
>> Privacy ? Authentication security ? Data security ?
>>
>> Or how a NGO could approve the safeness of its members and why a
>> random person should buy that claim (Sounds like 'self signed
>> certificate')
>>
>> This would be as good as to have Euro NCAP (the thing that tests
>> new cars) be set on the car industry 100 years ago. The safety of
>> cars has been troublesome for a long time but with the rising
>> number of cars in europe and the higher assumed safety of cars
>> actually makes EuroNCAP useful and trusted because there is a need
>> and there is trust for them (they are hopefully somewhat
>> independent). We need millions of OpenID *consumers* and after that
>> we can work on the certification. It would be like having ultrasafe
>> cars in the world with no roads otherwise.
>>
>> What I'm trying to say is that trust and sense of safety is
>> actually pretty personal. I don't automatically 'buy' something
>> because it claims to be the best. If the need for such
>> certification arises, it shall be filled by an *independent* party.
>>
>> m.
>> -- 
>> Martin Paljak
>> http://martin.paljak.pri.ee
>>
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