<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><base href="x-msg://367/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The ITU-T is a stateist large monopoly/ologoply telco place. <div><br><div>They really like the idea that people have to have phone numbers an "one" of them that is a persistent correlateable identifier. </div><div> How people are free to create and use different persona's in the digital world and not have everything they to all easily linked together because of the predominance of persistent correlateable identifiers that become "required". That to get a SIM you in many places have to show ID and have it recorded in the big database. </div><div><br></div><div>I asked Don last time we were in person if the GSMA in its use/adoption of OpenID was going to enable people to easily have more then one profile on their device. He basically said they hadn't thought of it and in effect said "nope". </div><div><br></div><div>We (across this and many other organizations) have a big issue where the populations most effected by digital identifiers, big data and technologies that hold "power over" people that they are not being included in their development and determination of how they are used. </div><div><br></div><div>Their is more attention being paid to this by various groups including a major coalition that I have spoken to who will be turning the attention of many hundred organizations focused on the needs of people of color in the United States this summer to focus on Surveillance and Privacy. </div><div><br></div><div>This statement about Big Data and Civil Rights is just the beginning. </div><div><a href="http://www.civilrights.org/press/2014/civil-rights-principles-big-data.html">http://www.civilrights.org/press/2014/civil-rights-principles-big-data.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>- Kaliya</div><div><br><div><div><div>On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Anthony Nadalin <<a href="mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com">tonynad@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">So not really, since the ITU does its own thing, one thing it does is will want the ability to change the specification, as they have done this with SAML, XACML, etc. I’m not in favor of this.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></a></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:openid-<a href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.openid.net">board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike Jones<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:52 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nat Sakimura; <a href="mailto:board-ec@lists.openid.net">board-ec@lists.openid.net</a>; Board OpenID<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OpenID board] [Board-ec] Fwd: JTC1_N13405-Proposal for a liaison C between Open ID Foundation and ISO/IEC JTC1 SC27 WG5<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">For context, as recorded in the just-posted board meeting minutes, this enables ITU-T to use OpenID specifications. This is a big deal.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike Jones<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:43 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nat Sakimura;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:board-ec@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">board-ec@lists.openid.net</a>; Board OpenID<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Board-ec] Fwd: JTC1_N13405-Proposal for a liaison C between Open ID Foundation and ISO/IEC JTC1 SC27 WG5<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Congratulations and thanks for making this happen, Nat!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> -- Mike<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:board-ec-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Nat Sakimura<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:33 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:board-ec@lists.openid.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">board-ec@lists.openid.net</a>; Board OpenID<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Board-ec] Fwd: JTC1_N13405-Proposal for a liaison C between Open ID Foundation and ISO/IEC JTC1 SC27 WG5<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Dear fellow board members, <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">As attached, the ISO/IEC liaison has been approved.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Nat Sakimura<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><br>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Blandine GARCIA <<a href="mailto:GARCIAB@iso.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">GARCIAB@iso.org</a>><br><b>Date:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>2014<span style="font-family: 'MS Gothic'; ">年</span>3<span style="font-family: 'MS Gothic'; ">月</span>20<span style="font-family: 'MS Gothic'; ">日</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>13:51:12 GMT+1<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>"<a href="mailto:nat@sakimura.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">nat@sakimura.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:nat@sakimura.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">nat@sakimura.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Passia Krystyna Mrs <<a href="mailto:krystyna.passia@din.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">krystyna.passia@din.de</a>>, Blandine GARCIA <<a href="mailto:GARCIAB@iso.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">GARCIAB@iso.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>JTC1_N13405-Proposal for a liaison C between Open ID Foundation and ISO/IEC JTC1 SC27 WG5</b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Establishment of Category C liaison between OIDF and ISO/IEC JTC1 SC27 WG5</span></b><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></b><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: justify; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dear Sakimura-San,</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: justify; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: justify; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">With reference to your request to ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 27 for the establishment of Category C liaison with SC 27/WG 5, after consulting ISO/IEC JTC 1 we can confirm that Category C liaison has now been officially established between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 27/WG 5 and your organization.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: justify; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: justify; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">If you have any questions concerning this liaison please contact us.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: justify; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Mrs Blandine GARCIA</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">ISO/IEC Information Technology Task Force</span></i><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">ISO Project Manager</span></i><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><i><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></i><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">ISO Central Secretariat</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span lang="FR-CH" style="font-size: 10pt; ">1, Ch. de la Voie-Creuse</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span lang="FR-CH" style="font-size: 10pt; ">Case Postale 56</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">CH-1211 Genève 20</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Telephone: +41 22 749 01 11</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Direct line: +41 22 749 02 40</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Fax: +41 22 749 03 49</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">E-mail: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:garciab@iso.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">garciab@iso.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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