Wow, I definitely saw that email, but I guess I didn't parse the tiny-and-improbable "11/29 means noon PST" bit. Weird, I hope/assume there's some story behind that odd choice? :)<div><br></div><div>Well, I guess that makes this "user error" on my part, but my guess is I'm not alone since the nomination list is missing a bunch of the "usual suspects". So I'll reiterate that I think it's in the best interest of the foundation to slip the deadline for 24-36 hours. If not, so be it, but IMO that would be a pretty dumb reason to block good board candidates.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mike Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060">I’ve been trying to stay out of this because I’m a candidate but in the interest of clarity, mostly as a past election committee chair, I’m going to communicate
only facts and then entirely recurse myself from any involvement in decisions made by the foundation based upon those facts. As the past elections committee chair for the previous two elections, upon which this year’s election’s procedures were based, I do
have some authoritative knowledge of the facts below.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060">Don’s election announcement sent to the OpenID general list on November 9<sup>th</sup> with the subject line “OIDF Board Election Announcement” contained the
following text:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Nominations open: Monday, November 15<br>
Nominations close: Monday, November 29<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Times for all dates are Noon, U.S. Pacific Time.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060">Thus, for this election, nominations opened at Noon Pacific Time on Monday, November 15<sup>th</sup> and closed at Noon Pacific Time on Monday, November 29<sup>th</sup>.
The election tool enforces the dates and times entered. The Noon Pacific time starting and ending times were used for the 2008 and 2009 elections as well.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060">Those are the facts as I understand them.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060"> -- Mike</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Smarr</span></p><div class="im"><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 29, 2010 7:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> OpenID Board (public)<br>
</div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] Unable to authenticate, therefore unable to nominate myself<p></p><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was planning to nominate myself for the board tonight (was busy with family over the weekend), but the UI to nominate myself has gone away. I thought today (11/29) was the last day to nominate myself. Is that GMT or something weird? Or
was it "11/29" meaning "11/28 11:59p"? </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd really like to nominate myself, and I don't think blocking that on a poorly communicated technicality is in the best interest of the foundation. :) Can somebody fix things and/or let me know how nominate myself?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks, js</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Chris Messina <<a href="mailto:chris.messina@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.messina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:10 PM, John Bradley <<a href="mailto:ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com" target="_blank">ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I seem to recall that the web site is using UTC for running ballots etc. I suppose that we had to pick a timezone and that is as good as any.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Though it would be a problem if you leave things to less than 8h to the deadline by west coast time.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am concerned about Chris not being able to get in. I didn't have a problem, but I am not using a delegated openID.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will see if I can replicate the problem. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris, did this just start, or haven't you logged in for a while?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This started recently — and I may have had problems before which were addressed. I'm guessing it has to do with RPX's approach to discovering delegation on my site. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here's a screencast of my experience:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18443/openid-fail.mov" target="_blank">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18443/openid-fail.mov</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FWIW, I'm able to login to <a href="http://disqus.net" target="_blank">
disqus.net</a> using my OpenID (<a href="http://factoryjoe.com" target="_blank">factoryjoe.com</a>) without issue.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Chris</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John B.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2010-11-29, at 7:34 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just logged onto the site to self nominate, and I don't see the button/link there anymore. It is still the 11/29th is it not?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">btw: I was able to login fine</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- Dick</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net" target="_blank">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Chris Messina<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 29, 2010 3:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenID Board (public)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OpenID board] Unable to authenticate, therefore unable to nominate myself</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've been trying to authenticate on the foundation member site for the past two days and have had no luck. I've been in touch with both Janrain and Darin from Refresh to no avail. If I'm not the only one unable to authenticate with my delegated
OpenID, I wonder who else has been unable to self-nominate themselves for the election?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This seems like a serious issue with our election proceedings.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Advise?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris</p>
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-- <br>
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