<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>FYI. Thanks Mike for pulling together the call and summarizing!<br><br><div>--</div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><b>From:</b> Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> June 4, 2010 5:33:27 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Anthony Nadalin <<a href="mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com">tonynad@microsoft.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [OIDFSC] Specs council status and work - POSSIBLE CALL TODAY</b><br><br></div></blockquote><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>David Recordon, Allen Tom, and I just got off the specs council call that we had. While our call didn't represent a quorum of the specs council, we agreed upon these points:</p>
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<li><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">All
the proposed working groups should proceed to be formed.</span> </li><li><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">We
encourage all the working groups to work <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">
together towards as a seamless a whole as possible.</span></span> </li><li><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">There's
a growing recognition that there’s substantial commonality in the mechanisms behind the artifact binding, the connect proposal, and the possible evolution of the hybrid specification.</span></span></span>
</li><li><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">We
encourage people to join the working groups and do the actual work, including implementations.</span></span></span></li></ul>
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<font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Chris Messina [chris.messina@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 04, 2010 4:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Recordon<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Allen Tom; Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones; <a href="mailto:openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net">openid-specs-council@lists.openid.net</a>; Dick Hardt<br>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 16px">FWIW, +1.<br>
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Agreed with Allen.
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On 6/4/10 11:52 AM, "Dick Hardt" <<a href="http://dick.hardt@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
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On 2010-06-04, at 10:01 AM, Mike Jones wrote:<br>
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<blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">First, unless anyone voices an objection to Breno filling the remaining slot, the specs council now consists of:<br>
Johnny Bufu<br>
Dick Hardt<br>
Mike Jones<br>
Breno de Medeiros<br>
David Recordon<br>
Nat Sakimura<br>
Allen Tom<br>
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Second, I believe that this is the status of existing specification proposals:<br>
Connect: Proposed Fri, May 21. Will be automatically approved on Sat, Jun 5.<br>
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I asked a number of questions about Connect that I have not yet seen responses to. I think the issues need to be addressed or the proposal withdrawn.<br>
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<blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> Discovery: Proposed Fri, May 21. Will be automatically approved on Sat, Jun 5.<br>
Core: Proposed Mon, May 24. Will be automatically approved on Tue, Jun 8.<br>
Attributes: Proposed Tue, May 25. Will be automatically approved on Wed, Jun 9.<br>
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Therefore, if we’re going to provide any input to the Connect and Discovery working groups before they’re automatically approved after 15 days of inaction on our part, we need to do it today.<br>
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We can also do it over email!<br>
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Does anyone have concerns with Discovery, Core and Attributes? David had mentioned that some used the OpenID term and some did not have enough proposers. I think all those issues have now been addressed.
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