<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: pre-wrap; "><p>After reviewing these meeting notes, I'd like to call out my specific hesitancy about the effort to hire Dick Hardt to work on v.Next.</p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">What's missing from the assessment presented in the </span><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openid.net%2FMay-19%252C-2010-OpenID-Board-Meeting-Minutes%235MakingProgressinvNext" target="_blank" style="font-family: arial; color: rgb(0, 62, 168); ">meeting minutes</a><span style="font-family: arial; "> [1</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">] goes beyond what is and isn't "fair". The </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">quest</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ions</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">for me are: </span><span style="font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; ">are we doing the right thing, and is it in the best interest of the OpenID Community?</span></p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">While many of our conversations have focused on the </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">legal requirements and stipulations</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> around</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">hir</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">i</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">n</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">g Di</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ck as a contractor, I think it's important that we</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> tak</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">e a step back and look</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> at </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">this</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> from a non-legal perspective as well. Even p</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">r</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">e</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">s</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">u</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ming that all</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> of </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">the </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">aspe</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">cts </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">rel</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">a</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ted</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> to </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">Dick's conflict</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> of </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">interest are</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">leg</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">a</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">lly</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> sat</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">isfied, nothing about the consideration for</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> thi</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">s situation so far seems to address whether</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> or </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">not this</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> is </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">the right thing to do for the</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> OpenID F</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ound</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ation</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">,</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> the</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> OpenID brand,</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> and</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> com</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">munity as a whole. </span></p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">One of the tensions within the Statement of Work is how far the Foundation should go in terms of paying someone to make v.Next happen. On one hand, the Foundation </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">dire</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ctly</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> hir</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ing </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">some</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">one to write and edit OpenID </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">spec</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ifications will </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">forever</span><span style="-webkit-user-modify: read-only; "><span style="white-space: normal; "></span></span><span style="font-family: arial; "> ch</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">a</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">nge the dynamics of the technology and community. On the other, it's difficult to justify such a large contract if the majority of work is "coordination".</span></p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">I</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">t</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">m</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">a</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">y</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">be the case in other foundations</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> tha</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">t members of the community or board m</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">embe</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">rs are</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> hir</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ed to perform certain work, or to act as editors of specifications, but be that as it may, </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">it</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> do</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">e</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">sn't serve to convince me that it's the right thing for us</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> to</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">do</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">. I'm hard pressed to find </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">a web-oriented</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> sta</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">ndards </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">devel</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">opment organization where staff members are paid to write the specifications.</span></p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">I </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">continue to harbor grave reservations about this whole enterprise. The conflict of interest seems apparent to me, and seems certain to be perceived as one by the community — whether we meet the letter of the law or not. </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">I d</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">o not believe that there is sufficient desire from the wider community that v.Next warrants such an aggressive use of the Foundation's resources. </span><span style="font-family: arial; ">Whe</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">n</span><span style="font-family: arial; "> I t</span><span style="font-family: arial; ">hink about the potential results of this work, it is unclear to me it will actually take us any further down the path of advancing OpenID, most of all because the community spirit and scrappiness of the initiative will have been corrupted, leading many to feel betrayed.</span></p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">Perhaps this is the natural evolution of community-driven endeavors that take on big organization sponsorship, but it's not obvious to me that it needs to be the fate of the OpenID initiative.</span></p>
<p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial; ">I would propose this as an alternative for consideration:</span></p><p></p><ul><li>Abandon the v.Next branding for this work. I'd offer something like "OpenID Labs" or "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="white-space: normal;">OpenID</span><span style="-webkit-user-modify: read-only; "><span style="white-space: normal; "></span></span> Core", because using an indeterminate <span class="Apple-style-span" style="white-space: normal; ">ordinate</span><span style="-webkit-user-modify: read-only; "><span style="white-space: normal; "></span></span> for this work spooks potential implementors who will wait for v.Next before getting started with their own implementations — especially when the core concepts of OpenID 2.0 are suited for many applications today.</li>
<li>Start up an OpenID v2.1 WG to explore modest and incremental improvements to OpenID 2.0. Among the improvements (that may best pursued as individual point releases): removing <span class="Apple-style-span" style="white-space: normal;">XRI, reusing</span><span style="-webkit-user-modify: read-only; "><span style="white-space: normal; "></span></span> OAuth signatures, simplifying discovery, adding support for email-style identifiers using WebFinger, etc.</li>
<li>Re-double the efforts around the existing extensions, and promote the use of the WG process (following examples like Artifact Binding and Contract Exchange). Promote using the existing extension model to explore discreet new features and functionality for OpenID, rather than trying to cram a bunch of new extensions into one larger (and thus more controversial and harder to sell) WG.</li>
</ul><p class=""></p><p>I would like to reiterate that my resistence to this path first of all has nothing to do with Dick's technical abilities, or my confidence in his ability to perform good work. I also am representing my own personal feelings on this matter as a community-elected board member, and not as an employee of Google. Joseph and Eric may or may not agree with my assessments, as both community and corporate representatives.</p>
<p></p><p>I am also not opposed to seeing OpenID evolve and improve, but have less confidence in the broader v.Next proposal than I do in a more conservative, incremental path to make changes based on implementations in the wild, that involve a broad cross-section of our constituents and builds buy-in as we go, rather than after the fact.</p>
<p></p><p>I welcome specific feedback and rebuttals.</p><p></p><p>Chris</p><p></p><p class="">[1] <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openid.net%2FMay-19%252C-2010-OpenID-Board-Meeting-Minutes%235MakingProgressinvNext" target="_blank" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 62, 168); ">http://wiki.openid.net/May-19%2C-2010-OpenID-Board-Meeting-Minutes#5MakingProgressinvNext<span class="__wave_paste"></span><span> </span></a></p>
</span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Mike Jones <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b>May 19, 2010 OpenID Board Meeting Minutes</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b>Present in Person:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Don Thibeau, Executive Director</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mike Jones</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">John Bradley</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Brian Kissel</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Andrew Nash</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">David Recordon</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Joseph Smarr</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Nat Sakimura</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Pamela Dingle</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dick Hardt</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Eric Sachs</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Raj Mata</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Allen Tom</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Mike Ozburn</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">David Turner (representing Tony Nadalin)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Chris Messina</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b>Present on the Phone:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Rob Harles</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Daniel Jacobson</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Luke Shepard</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b>Absent:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Joseph Smarr (proxy to Dick Hardt)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Nico Popp (proxy to Brian Kissel)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Tony Nadalin (represented by David Turner)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="FR">Marc Frons</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="FR">Dermot O’Mahony</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="FR">Nataraj (Raj) Nagaratnam</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="FR"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b>Visitors:</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Scott David, K&L Gates</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Deepak Kamlani, Global Inventures CEO</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">John Ehrig, Global Inventures</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Kick Willemse</p>
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<b><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></b><b>Legal Counsel</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Scott David, our new legal counsel introduced himself. Among other things, he is chair of the ID-Legal group at Identity Commons and has been a regular participant at IIWs.</p>
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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.25in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<b><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></b><b>Board Survey and Resulting Proposed Resolutions</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">We discussed issues of governance, value to members, numbers of board members, and prices of membership classes. With respect to the proposed resolutions, Dick asked that we consider what
problems we’re trying to solve with respect to governance.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The board discussed the three proposed resolutions below:</p>
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2. The “community” board representation will always be 1/3 of N (where N= # of sustaining board members). One challenge to this resolution is to properly define “community” members which will be discussed.</p>
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3. Employees (or contractors) of sustaining members are not eligible to serve as community board representatives.</p>
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4. The Executive Committee will have at least one elected community board representative and at least one sustaining board representative.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">We decided that these were not necessarily the best solutions to the possible problems, and did not vote on these possible resolutions. An alternative remedy discussed was enacting a bylaws
amendment that would state that if more than one employee or contractor of a company were on the board, that for some classes of votes, the representatives of the company would have at most one vote. John Bradley said that that limitation might be appropriate
for votes about finances, bylaws, and IPR procedures, for instance.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Our legal counsel, Scott David, recommended that we investigate the potential conflict of interest in the issue of having multiple people from the same company on the board. The board decided
to have Don and Scott investigate this issue and report back to us with actionable resolutions, possibly based on the discussed alternative remedy.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">[Chris Messina joined the meeting at this point]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Another of the previously proposed resolutions was adopted. Specifically, John Bradley moved that “All directors must be members of or employed by members the OIDF.” Pam seconded. The resolution
was unanimously adopted.</p>
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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.25in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<b><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></b><b>Discussion of Designated Funds Proposals</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The board discussed the merits of and possible mechanisms for allowing sustaining members to designate that a portion of their membership dues be directed towards specific projects. This
could increase the perceived value of sustaining members’ memberships by letting them take credit for funding specific OpenID projects that are of particular value to them. It would let them “vote with their money”.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Several on the board expressed that it would be important to cover the basic costs of running the organization before allowing funds to be designated. For instance, for staff costs, legal
costs, membership services, and web site costs would likely be in this class.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Another important consideration discussed was what the approval process would be for projects to which funds could be designated. Both “approved by default” and “explicit board approval required”
models were discussed. Dick proposed that projects should be approved by default after notifying the board, but giving the board the opportunity to vote to reject a proposed project should it determine that the project was contrary to the foundation’s mission
or damaging to the foundation.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Scott suggested that we consider distinguishing between program decisions and funding decisions. He wants it to be clear what actions have been approved by the board. Deepak suggested that
we ensure that projects fit within the organization’s strategy. Dick suggested that we defer specific wording to Scott.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dick moved that we have Don and Scott work to create a resolution or resolutions to accomplish the intent of this draft resolution:</p>
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Each sustaining member can direct up to 50% (subject to the requirement that fixed operating costs of the foundation are covered) of their annual membership dues towards projects they select. Each sustaining member can decide when and where the directed funds
are spent. Any discretionary funds that have not been directed by the end of the year are transferred to the general fund. Eligible projects are any project presented to the board for funding and require advance full board simple majority approval.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> Andrew seconded the motion. It passed unanimously.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dick proposed that we vote electronically on the motion to be produced before the end of June. Don agreed to this.</p>
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<b><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></b><b>Vertical Focus Areas</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Raj Mata proposed that we discuss creating some formal vertical focus groups within OpenID. Examples he mentioned were Consumer, Enterprise, Government, Mobile, and Retail. Raj agreed to
come back with a proposal on this topic to the board at a later time.</p>
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<p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.25in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<b><span>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></b><b>Making Progress in v.Next</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Andrew Nash led a discussion on the need to expeditiously accomplish creating and adopting OpenID v.Next specifications, per the board’s conclusions from the previous meeting and recent summits
that one of the most important issues facing OpenID is to improve the product we have to offer. Andrew stated that it is important to conclude quickly with success.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">A discussion ensued about whether there should be one v.Next technology spanning a range of use cases or different technologies for specific use cases. Points were made both about simplicity
of implementation and enabling users to have a simple, consistent view of their online identities, and the possible application of profiles of a common technology suite.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Andrew Nash moved that we allocate some money towards having Dick Hardt write a v.Next draft specification. John Bradley seconded the motion.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">During discussion, a director asked whether Dick would have to resign from the board to be employed as a contractor to the OIDF. Scott David, our legal counsel, responded that according to
our conflict of interest policy, provided the potential conflict is identified in advance and the board decides it is fair to the organization or approved by the board as provided under the bylaws, that the transaction is permitted by the bylaws. He said that
therefore, per the bylaws, Dick need not necessarily resign to work as a contractor under these circumstances, but that the specific terms should undergo review by the executive director and counsel once they are decided.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">During the discussion, the board decided that we would use up to $30,000 of the $40,000 previously allocated to the technical committee (none of which has been spent), for this purpose.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Andrew accepted a modification of the resolution to have the executive director and counsel produce term sheet by the end of May for up to $30,000 with input from the technical committee for
Dick to begin v.Next specification work as a contractor to the OIDF and that the executive director and counsel then produce an actual contract reflecting those terms. John again seconded.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The motion carried with all but two members voting in favor. Chris Messina opposed. Dick Hardt abstained.</p>
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<b><span>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></b><b>Adjournment</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Nat moved to adjourn the meeting; Brian seconded.</p>
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