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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>DeWitt
Clinton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenID board] Technical Committee Chairs</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sounds like this problem is relatively easy to resolve if
there is a consensus within the OIDF and the membership to pursue <i>both</i> Connect
and v.Next in parallel. If so, the technical committee's role is simply
to make both happen, and we can trust the committee, regardless of the chairs,
to do that job well and without conflict.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In other words, if we agree on the goals, then I'm not
worried about the committees. (Or rather, if we have to stress about the
committees, then we got the big picture parts wrong to begin with.)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So ... is there a consensus to do both v.Next and Connect?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My own hope is the answer is "yes!", as Connect is
going to get built somewhere by someone no matter what -- there is too much
need for it and too much momentum behind it for it not to happen. If the
OIDF helps make that happen, then it could be called OpenID Connect. If
not, then it will be called something else. Seems pretty simple, really.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And I would love to see smart people, like Dick and others,
thinking about v.Next, and thinking about revisiting the stack for the future.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So I advocate yes to pursuing both paths in parallel.
But I'd love to hear that from the OIDF leadership as well.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-DeWitt</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Santosh Rajan <<a href="mailto:santrajan@gmail.com">santrajan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am slightly out of tune regarding this thread. My
apologies. However I have one related question.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) I had heard about a year back that the original founders
of OpenID, and if I understood this correctly includes David Recordon.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) I also heard about a year back that the original founders
had a veto rights on the decisions made on the OpenID board. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3) Can the board clarify whether I am right or wrong?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And If I am right then my request to David recordon is that
please do take a more democratic stand on these matters.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you so much</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Santosh Rajan</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:33 PM, David Recordon <<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It seems that it was completely a misunderstanding. Given
that the Board wanted us to move forward quickly, I was just trying to help
make that happen.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:58 AM, John Bradley <<a href="mailto:jbradley@mac.com" target="_blank">jbradley@mac.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My recollection is that Dick said that being part of a
decision to direct funds to himself would be a conflict, so he recused himself
from the vote.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I understood Scot's reply to be that resigning from the
board/committee was not required. That the bylaws contained other
mechanisms to deal with such a conflict.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am assuming that the conflict or lack there of will be
dealt with as part of the contract/SOW process.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is no contract/SOW there is no conflict.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is a issue with Dick remaining chair I expect the
director to inform the Committee and a new election to occur in a democratic
fashion.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Committee can also decide to replace the chair at any
time independent of conflict recommendations from Council/ED.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So I did consider your note a touch over eager. I do
understand that it was perhaps partially motivated by conversations I am
unaware of.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John B.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2010-05-20, at 6:40 AM, David Recordon wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry, when I spoke with Don, Brian, and Scott after the
meeting they were all under the impression that this was the case.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Dick Hardt <<a href="mailto:dick.hardt@gmail.com" target="_blank">dick.hardt@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I stated I had a conflict as chair of the technical
committee to direct funds to myself from the technical committee budget. I did
not state that I was stepping down as chair of the tech committee, nor did
anyone suggest that I should.<br>
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My understanding is that the technical committee was to review the statement of
work. I predict that continuing on as chair of the technical committee would be
beneficial in performing the work.<br>
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I'm disappointed that you did not discuss your proposed path before sending out
this email.<br>
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I will send out a draft SOW to the Tech Comm and schedule a call to discuss
soon.<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
-- Dick</span></p>
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On 2010-05-19, at 11:01 PM, David Recordon wrote:<br>
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> Today the Board passed a resolution directing the Executive Director,
Chair, Technical Committee, and outside council to explore a contracting
relationship with Dick Hardt to move the v.Next work forward. Dick brought up
how there could be a conflict during this process given that he is the chair of
the Technical Committee. So for the time being I'll take on the chair role with
Joseph Smarr (who wasn't at the meeting but I spoke to a few hours ago) taking
on the co-chair role.<br>
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> Technical Committee, expect a followup email around starting to pull
together a set of deliverables and timeline over the next week. The goal, as I
understand it, is to either have a contract in place or a determination that it
is unfeasible by the end of the this month.<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
> --David</p>
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