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They look good. <br>
<br>
In addition, I feel that it is a good practice to put privacy policy
link as a footer item in every page as well. <br>
In our case, right next to "Contact Us" in the footer. <br>
<br>
=nat<br>
<br>
(2010/01/28 10:00), John Ehrig wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Darin at
Refresh mocked up a couple of
options for the higher visibility location for the privacy policy
(attached). Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:personname
w:st="on">John Ehrig</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
January 27, 2010
4:51 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID
board] OIDF
Privacy Policy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Actually, we
already do have an approved
and actively in use OIDF privacy policy (see the attached). A couple
of
issues:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">1) It is
buried in the membership portal and
only viewable when you first sign up as a new member (which is why it
took me
so long to track it down) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">2) It seems
to be written specifically as
a member privacy policy (which may not really be an issue if we are ok
with it
as is for that purpose)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I can
immediately fix issue #1 by posting
it in an easy to find/view page. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Longer term,
we can use this existing
policy as a stating point if we want to improve or broaden it within
the legal
or privacy committee. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Bradley<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
January 27, 2010
10:00 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenID
board] OIDF
Privacy Policy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I think that it would be fine to post
redacted versions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I suspect that a page with the companies and
individuals who have
signed up for WG is probably more useful than the scanned agreements
themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I made a IPR declaration three years ago when
the OIDF was formed and
the PAPE WG started. I don't recall anyone telling me it was going to
be
scanned and posted.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I like most people haven't thought about it
in a while because there
haven't been new WG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">If we are going to publish information that
people give us we need to
make that clear at the time of collection.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">We may be violating privacy laws outside the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region></st1:place>.
I would prefer to make
sure it is not an issue for the membership.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">John B.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">On 2010-01-27, at 2:47 PM, Mike Jones wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It
would be fine to
post digital images with the signatures and address information
redacted
– possibly by overlaying them with “Information on file with
OIDF” or something of that sort. (Sort of how elevators often
contain messages about the elevator license being on file at
such-and-such
place.)<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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--
Mike<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font></span><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net">mailto:openid-board-bounces@lists.openid.net</a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>David
Recordon<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:40
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openid-board@lists.openid.net">openid-board@lists.openid.net</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OpenID board] OIDF Privacy
Policy<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Hey John,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I'm happy to have us reconsider the policy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">The idea is to make it incredibly transparent
around who has
signed what (when it comes to IP). So far you're the first person in
three years to say anything about it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Considering that there can be different
versions of documents and some
documents with options, scanning them as PDFs seemed like the easiest
and most
accurate method. 99% of the time it's also companies signing the
agreements and using corporate addresses versus personal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">If Global Inventures is able to manage these
agreements and keep up to
date online records, I'm less worried about each agreement
being available online.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">That said, they should be made available upon
request.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">--David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"><u1:p></u1:p>On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:07 AM,
John Bradley <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jbradley@mac.com">jbradley@mac.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">In the
process of setting
up the AX 1.1 WG a number of things have come to light.<br>
<br>
One is some confusion around who needs to submit what sort of
agreement,
Personal or Company.<br>
Perhaps our new Secretary can have a look at that.<br>
<br>
The more important one is that the OIDF has a practice of positing
scanned
documents publicly including peoples signature.<br>
<br>
A number of us don't think publicly posting our address info with a
scan of our
signature is such a good idea.<br>
<br>
I think everyone agrees that who has signed contribution agreements and
what WG
they apply to should be public.<br>
<br>
However there are ways to do that are less subject to identity theft
and other
issues.<br>
<br>
I would like to recommend that one of our committees (perhaps the legal
one) or
a sub committee.<br>
<br>
Review and publish the OIDF privacy policy and specifically if
practices like
posting members PII publicly are appropriate.<br>
<br>
The board can then consider those recommendations.<br>
<br>
In the interim I would like GlobalInventures to redact my signature
from any
and all of the IPR agreements they publish.<br>
<br>
I don't think we can be credible respecting peoples right to privacy on
the
internet if we don't do a credible job with our own members.<br>
<br>
There may be other privacy issues I am not currently aware of as well.<br>
<br>
I think being proactive about privacy can only increase participation
from the
community in general.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
John B.<br>
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