On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:18 PM, DeWitt Clinton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dewitt@google.com">dewitt@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Sure, I have absolutely no objection to private lists for sensitive affairs, which definitely do come up from time to time. But I'm equally conscious of the power of autocomplete in the To box, or just simple muscle memory.<div>
<br></div><div>BTW, the draft notes should probably be public. All but the executive session portion, anyway. Or are board meetings still closed to observers?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess the thought is that the Secretary gives those within a meeting a period of time (week or two IIRC) to review the notes and make sure that they are accurate. I think we might have corrected one or two errors in the past year, so I'm definitely fine with drastically reducing this period of time or eliminating it. And by eliminating it I mean that the draft notes are distributed on the public list but still verified by those within a meeting for their correctness before being formally adopted.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The Board is now up in the high teens in terms of numbers. The entire group is hardly productive on the phone which is why I was pushing for more targeted and smaller committees the past few weeks.</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div>Rather than board-private, perhaps board-hr and board-recruitment, which are by definition private, and tightly scoped enough by name to remind people of the purpose of those list.</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fine by me. I'm trying to move the OpenID lists over to Google Apps (since there is now Groups support) which makes admin tasks like this much easier. I don't have a solid plan yet for the transition from a technical perspective. (Importing archives, DNS switch over, <a href="mailto:general@openid.net">general@openid.net</a> vs <a href="mailto:general@lists.openid.net">general@lists.openid.net</a>, etc).</div>
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<div>I found that, after I was no longer on board-private, my knowledge of the OIDF greatly decreased. That says something.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This must be fixed this year. There is far too large of a gap between the value the OIDF creates for Board members and for everyone else. Our current membership model supports this gap and must evolve.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--David</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">-DeWitt</font><div><div>
</div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:03 PM, David Recordon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There are a few legitimate use cases of the private list, but I generally agree with you. It seems like the main uses for the private list should be:<div>
- draft meeting notes for review</div><div> - sensitive legal / PR issues</div>
<div> - HR (though this mainly happens via a small CC list of the exec committee)</div><div> - prospective members</div><div><br></div><div>I also don't think that everyone is as offended by giant CC lists as you or I am. I worry that because of this, what is currently sent to the private list – and at least archived – would be lost.</div>
<div><br></div><div>:-\</div><div><br></div><div>Could always moderate new threads, but that would be sad.</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">--David</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:55 PM, DeWitt Clinton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dewitt@google.com" target="_blank">dewitt@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">: )<div><br></div><div>As someone who only follows board public now, I'm wondering if the board would consider deleting board-private altogether. I made this suggestion a year or two ago, but never really followed up.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The bounce mail would be a good reminder of best practices.</div><div><br></div><div>-DeWitt<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:50 PM, David Recordon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div>Starting the new year off right and moving this to the public list... :)<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Brian Kissel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bkissel@janrain.com" target="_blank">bkissel@janrain.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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